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valerie
Tips for getting efficiency out of women employees - from 1943 Mark Unseen   Jan 20 02:51 UTC 1997

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janc
response 1 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 07:02 UTC 1997

Hmmm...actually most of those are pretty good ways to keep men happy too.
robh
response 2 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 16:07 UTC 1997

Yeah, but we're not supposed to admit it.  >8)
valerie
response 3 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 21:25 UTC 1997

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robh
response 4 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 07:21 UTC 1997

You should have replaced the previous occurences of "men" with
"women", saying "men... can't shrug off harsh words the way men
do" seems a little silly.  >8)

Other than items 4, 8, and 10, that looks quite appropriate really.

<robh rushes off to the restroom to apply lipstick and tidy his,
er, scalp>
scott
response 5 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 12:15 UTC 1997

Well, it's still pretty appropriate, though.

I would have done 3 passes of search-and-replace:
woman->thingy
man->woman
thingy-man

to avoid some of the confusion.
valerie
response 6 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 15:32 UTC 1997

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omni
response 7 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 22 05:12 UTC 1997

8)  Give every boy an adequate number of rest periods during the day.
 > You have to make some allowances for masculine psychology.  A boy has more
 > confidence and is more efficient if he can keep his hair tidied, apply
 > fresh lipstick and wash his hands several times a day.

  Oh, yeah. I know I need at least 4 breaks to keep my lipstick fresh. ;)
scott
response 8 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 22 12:11 UTC 1997

what's interesting is that these sound more like today's workplace, with
breaks, changes in tasks, etc.  This article makes it sound like men are happy
to work without a break, no direction, and on the same dull thing all the
time.
janc
response 9 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 22 16:02 UTC 1997

That was pretty much my point.  The original document certainly presents a
distorted view of women, but it also presents a distorted view of men.
raoa
response 10 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 11:40 UTC 1997

Can anybody suggest how to avoid work altogether !!!
janc
response 11 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 01:13 UTC 1997

It's not as hard as it looks.  It took me seven years of working at a
moderately well-paying job to reach the point where I could pretty much
support myself off investments, and don't really have to work any more.
Basic rules:

  - Don't get into debt.  Carrying car loans, house loans, college loans
    will burden you so much it will take you much, much longer to reach
    financial independence.

  - Lots of education.  Some jobs pay a lot more for a lot less work.
    You want one of those to earn the money that will let you stop working
    as soon as possible, and to fall back on if your investments turn sour.
    Most of them require that you have a good education.

  - No expensive hobbies.  No fancy cars.  No vacations in Rio.  No big
    houses.  And no kids.

  - Interests.  Some people, if they stop working, can't find anything to
    do but watch TV all day.  If that's you, you're better off working.
    If you find you work as hard (or harder) when you're not working than
    when you are working, then you probably have the constitution for
    sustained non-employment.  Human beings need to be doing something to
    remain healthy.
valerie
response 12 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 15:57 UTC 1997

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janc
response 13 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 20:40 UTC 1997

Yup.
adania
response 14 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 00:05 UTC 1997

I don't have to worry about college, but it is the finding a relatively 
good job part that worries me.
abchan
response 15 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 00:08 UTC 1997

"Three-year-plans" also help reduce the cost of college.
valerie
response 16 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 04:09 UTC 1997

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raoa
response 17 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 10:39 UTC 1997

How do you compare studying high and being paid less and studying little 
but able to earn well. I think academic qualification matters only if you
like to impress upon people.
janc
response 18 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 16:01 UTC 1997

There are high paid jobs that you don't need college degrees for.  But you
do need uncommon skills (or uncommon luck) to get them.  Uncommon skills, even
if you are born with them, need some kind of education to hone them.  That
doesn't have to be college education.
otter
response 19 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 18:34 UTC 1997

Examples, please.
abchan
response 20 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 03:16 UTC 1997

Re: #16 Did you work through college to support it?  I worked two semesters
as a teaching assitant even though I cut down the costs of college.  To be
honest, I don't feel like it cost me anything.  I guess it's different for
each person, but if I had to do it again, I'd do that part exactly the same
way.  Besides, my parents need all the savings they can get.  They still need
to put my sister through college.
valerie
response 21 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 14:36 UTC 1997

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janc
response 22 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 17:27 UTC 1997

My parents paid for the first four years of college (Big Thanks, Mom & Dad).
The remaining seven years were paid for by teaching and research
assistanceships.  I earned more money during college than I spent, though
without my parent's support I would probably have come out dead even and would
probably have had to borrow money to pay for the first for years, and with
the interest, probably wouldn't have come out even.

Re #19:  Examples of high paying jobs that don't require college educations?
 How about Michael Jackson and Bill Gates?  I don't know if either has a
 college degree, but you don't have to look far for evidence that you can
 earn a lot of money without a degree.  For most people, degrees are the
 surest and easiest bet though.
aruba
response 23 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 00:50 UTC 1997

Bill Gates dropped out of college - I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a degree.
robh
response 24 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 23:14 UTC 1997

aruba is correct.  Why did I get my degree, anyway?  >8)
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