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Differences Between Men and Women Mark Unseen   Oct 23 18:40 UTC 1996

As a child, boys and girls play together without a problem.  As kids get
older, they start segregating themselves and often get into a stage where
they think that members of the opposite sex might as well be aliens.  Then
when you finally mature, you learn that although men and women are different,
they are also alike.

What do you think are some of the major (real) differences between men and
women?
64 responses total.
mcpoz
response 1 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 00:40 UTC 1996

Men tend to be destructively competitive, superficial, and self-centered.
Women tend to be constructively cooperative, deep, and sharing.
Other than that, not a lot of difference.
mta
response 2 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 01:57 UTC 1996

Marc, it sounds like you've been hanging out with all the wrong people.  I've
met more than an few superficial, self-centered women and more than a few
deep, sharing, cooperative men.

It's not the plumbing, it's the personality.  (Of course, I suppose that it
could be argued that until recently a man had to work harder to be a
"sensitive, caring person" because of the way men and women have been raised,
but that's changing.)

How do men and differ primarily?  Women bear young and nurse them.  Men come
into the child nurture thing 9at least directly) only after the child's birth.
clees
response 3 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 06:39 UTC 1996

Men are reluctant to grow up (the only difference between men and boys
is the price of their toyz), and always keep a hang towards
independency meanwhile being dependent.
Therefore so many men have affairs, but always
tend to come back to their old nest.
A woman is loyal unless she loses her love/devotion for
somebody. If a woman has an affair, she is in love.

at least that's my impression of what I witnessed around me,
and of course that is by no means a standard.

mcpoz
response 4 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 10:21 UTC 1996

#1 was somewhat tongue in cheek.  There are lots and lots of exceptions, but
if you find someone who "has to win", I'll wager it's a man.  If you find 
someone who wants to talk things over (without winning) and effecting a
resolution which respects everyones feelings, it is more likely to be a woman.
True, you and I know many exceptions, but I feel the generalization still
applies.
mta
response 5 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 17:58 UTC 1996

Well, OK, if you'll put that proviso on it -- that it's social rather than
inevitable, I guess it's true that I've rarely run into a woman who has to
turn every conversation into a contest for supremecy.  ;)
popcorn
response 6 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 19:26 UTC 1996

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clees
response 7 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 06:39 UTC 1996

Is that so?
YThen this difference is built in very very deep.
OK, life is a conspiracy: from your first days you are
expected to bahave according to your gender.
If someone behaves/acts like someone from the opposite sex, it is
considered strange/funny/queer.

Still, I think there is a basic difference, and that got to do with
the way both genders are built.
Then again, it is the y-chromosome that determines the gender, but if
hormones aren't produced according to this gender, and the balance is
exactly the opposite of what it should be then,
a woman (double XX) can be a man and vice versa.
This last part is now having its discussion about gender testing
for the Olympics (the Barr bodies and so on).
birdlady
response 8 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 19:44 UTC 1996

I tend to notice that the majority of men I know envy the fact that women can
be hugging each other and saying, "I love you" within three hours of
soul-searching and bonding, whereas it takes them a LONG time to form a deep
relationship with another man.  If I see a guy hug another guy, it shocks me
sometimes because they are part of the rare few that are comfortable with a
true >>HUG<<.  =)  I say "the majority" because I know some of you guys are
cuddle bears at heart.
mcpoz
response 9 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 23:00 UTC 1996

One reported difference between men and women is that men generally test
significantly better for hand-eye cordination in 3-D spatial kinds of
activities.  I have never seen any data or studies on this, but I have seen
this reported as fact.  

When women talk among theirselves, the conversation often involves feelings.
Most men do not discuss feelings.  (My perception).
raven
response 10 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 23:12 UTC 1996

        re #9 Most men do not discuss feelings.  My group of friends does.
mta
response 11 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 01:05 UTC 1996

Yes but it's so hard to sort the biological differences from the social
differences.  Is that hand-eye coordination advantage because they've been
encouraged to practice more?  Or because they have a different brain structure
before birth?

Even evaluation s o brain tissue at some point past birth could be misleading
since the brain, like much else about humans, develops in response to demands
made on it.

In studies, people had a very hard time interacting with a child until they
knew its gender.  And their perception of the child's gender played a large
role in how they interacted with the child.  That suggests that we are
subjected to very strong social cues from the moment o birth that influence
everything we are to become.

So, I still hold that the only differeifference we can be certain of is the
plumbing.
mcpoz
response 12 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 01:35 UTC 1996

(mcpoz tries another angle) - Don't girls develop socially and in school
earlier than boys, with boys catching up in mid-teens?
mta
response 13 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 01:53 UTC 1996

Well, tes -- but phsychology experiments have hown that people tend to
spend quite a bit more time talking to girls and cuddling with thm\em.  Is
that response to babies inclination or is it training?

iggy
response 14 of 64: Mark Unseen   Oct 31 16:08 UTC 1996

most men will not discuss urinals, either...;-)
clees
response 15 of 64: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 07:09 UTC 1996

huh?
You lost me there.
Still, what I posted before.
How strange must it be to you when you suddenly are
told that you are of the opposite sex, while you always
thou you were the other.
klg
response 16 of 64: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 17:33 UTC 1996

Let me see if I understand this Plumber's Theory of 
Sexual Differntiation.

If I take some newly hatched chicks, some newborn lions, and
some newborn deer and raise them independently, when they ma-
tured, I would find hens strutting in the barnyard while
roosters brooded the eggs,  male lions doing the hunting 
while lionesses sat in the shade, and does fighting it out
over which gets to mate with the most desirable buck??
popcorn
response 17 of 64: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 19:37 UTC 1996

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chelsea
response 18 of 64: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 00:41 UTC 1996

There is nothing in parenting that requires a penis.  For
conception it is helpful but fucking is not parenting.
klg
response 19 of 64: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 02:37 UTC 1996

17:  But aren't they (the Ms and the Fs) all the same, 
except for the "plumbing"?
clees
response 20 of 64: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 07:30 UTC 1996

Plumbing must be an american expression.
I cannot exactly put my finger on the meaning.
Can anybody help me here?
remmers
response 21 of 64: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 11:33 UTC 1996

From my dictionary:

    "plumbing: the pipes, fixtures, and other apparatus
     of a water, gas, or sewage system"

clees
response 22 of 64: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 07:28 UTC 1996

That I knew, I mean in this gender context.
Or should I take things literally?
popcorn
response 23 of 64: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 07:35 UTC 1996

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chelsea
response 24 of 64: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 13:18 UTC 1996

Like the spinal column, tear ducts, bile ducts? ;-)
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