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aruba
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Appearances
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Jul 4 05:58 UTC 1996 |
I was talking with a female friend the other day. It was a conversation
full of sweeping generalizations, and at one point she said that men were
more concerned with appearances than women. Her evidence for this was
that she often sees good looking women together with unattractive men,
but rarely the other way around.
My response was that this is probably because women, as a whole, spend a
lot more time on thir appearance than men do, and there are simply a lot
more women who look good than men who look good. So I think just the
opposite - that it is *women* who are more concerned with appearances
than men.
Anyone want to add to this generalization-fest? :)
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clees
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response 1 of 128:
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Jul 5 06:41 UTC 1996 |
For a part it's due to rolemodels.
Men are expecting to be the laughing stock if they
would introduce their less good looking girlfriend to them.
Certainly if he considers himself a hunk.
Women are easier in dismissing this prejudice and and appreciate
the character as it diserves.
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denise
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response 2 of 128:
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Jul 6 20:03 UTC 1996 |
From my experiences, if I had to generalize, I'd say it was the men
that are more focused on dating good looking women then more
average looking women, then the other way around [women dating
only "good" looking guys vs 'average' looking guys]. Though
I don['t like to generalize. But look through the personals sometime--
In the men's ads, most of them feature physical attributes-of themselves
as well as physical attributes they are looking for, women do this
to some extent but not nearly as much as the men do...
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otter
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response 3 of 128:
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Jul 7 07:11 UTC 1996 |
Generally speaking, I think men tend to have a clearer picture in their heads
of what makes women "good looking", while women tend to take a look at the
sum of the parts on an individual basis.
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omni
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response 4 of 128:
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Jul 7 15:28 UTC 1996 |
There are more un-attractive people around then there is beautiful. It is
my firm belief that face, hair, eyes, and all outward appearances are merely
eye-candy, or not. It is what is inside that counts. You can be a very ugly
person, and still have a heart of gold, or you can look like Vanna White and
have a heart like an icecube, small, cold and mean.
I know this information first hand.
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mta
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response 5 of 128:
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Jul 7 18:22 UTC 1996 |
Sure, or you can be drop-dead gorgreous and have a heart of gold.
Most of us, though, fall somewhere in the middle. Ouir hearts are
modertaely warm if a bit flawed and our looks are pleasant, if not
awe inspiring. Besides, there is no face lovelier than the face
of a loved one.
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chelsea
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response 6 of 128:
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Jul 7 18:47 UTC 1996 |
Yeah know, I must be really weird or something, but I think it would be
pure hell to live with someone who was mostly sweet, kind, nurturing, hugs
& kisses, and loving all the time. I'd go into a hyperglycemic coma on
day two. I enjoy being around real people, with real and variable
emotions, who speak their mind, and aren't afraid to engage their upper
brain and share honest words even when this means their comments won't
earn them popularity awards.
And nice buns won't hurt the cause. ;-)
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clees
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response 7 of 128:
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Jul 8 07:03 UTC 1996 |
Goes without saying.
But it is not the point.
Living with a basterd/bitch can be hell.
Living with a sweet to the core person makes your teeth fall out.
Neither sais a thing about appearances.
It's the superficial that is being forced upon us by the near perfect
picture the media thrust down our throats.
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freida
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Jul 8 23:07 UTC 1996 |
Why pay attention to media/ You know it is just hype...so you use your brain
and walk away...I agree with chelsea...give me real people, with all their
attributes and flaws, who speak their mind. Besides, a good argument is quite
stimulating...whether among friends or lovers.
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iggy
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response 9 of 128:
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Jul 9 16:13 UTC 1996 |
i find that i can relate/interact best with people who
are <well, 'broken' isnt quite the word>..who have not
led exactly a charmed life. i admire the character of
someone who can go on living even though they have experienced
great anguish of some kind or other.
for some reason, it is hard for me to relate to
someone who hasnt had to struggle with tough issues. granted, they
could be very nice people, but i just cant "connect" with them.
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clees
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response 10 of 128:
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Jul 10 07:35 UTC 1996 |
We call them "Sunday-children", and personally I think they're rather boring.
But, there are friends among mine that qualify.
Though, if I look through my friends, most of them are people as you
describe them, Iggy.
I agree, but I guess, it is a result of the known
"birds of a feather syndrome".
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mta
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response 11 of 128:
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Jul 13 18:51 UTC 1996 |
I find a good argument far from stimulating, I'm afraid. I may come closer
to the "hypogycemic shock inducer". *sigh* I speak my mind just fine...
until someone cuts me off or gets sharp with me. Then I find it extremely
difficult to get the less pleasant things out ever again. It's definitely
a flaw -- but one I can see the roots of and am working on.
Part of the problem is that I just shrivel and dry up when the conversation
gets too heated. My mind blanks and I have trouble breathing. Sort of a
panic attack, I guess. That makes people who like to solve problems loudly
very hard for me to be around.
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yo
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response 12 of 128:
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Jul 24 10:59 UTC 1996 |
I think appearences mimic behavior, if there is some gorgeous guy or gal,
watch the behavior of their friends. If someone is spending alot of time
getting ready it means there trying to present an image. If you look at a
group of people yo get alot more than from one individual if a guy is hanging
out with atractive Women and looks like a slob it means he's comfortable with
his image, a good looking women with a group of sloby guys means uncofortable
image vice versa same thing. But generalization sucks untill you meet the
individual and talk to them for a couple hours alone it is hard to understand
them you good be dead wrong. I met a guy who was a complete neat freak,
obsesed with image, and he was rude. I met a slob with a great body who a
complete moron, and rude. I met a great guy who was a slob looked like he just
woke up looked grumpy, and really was a nice guy who was completely organized
all the time. It really depends on how much time you spend watching people
befor you get to talk to them.
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beeswing
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response 13 of 128:
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Jul 27 16:15 UTC 1996 |
Looks are a sensitive issue... there are still things we cannot change. I am
not toally happy wuith my nose but I am not going to drop $6,000 on a anose
job. And while that girl may be gorgeous, that may not always be the case.
Let's hope the guy will still accept her if she gains weight or is in a
disfiguring accident.
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clees
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response 14 of 128:
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Aug 1 15:41 UTC 1996 |
It is the flaws in human appearance that defines real beauty dear
bees.
Leave your nose as it is, it becomes you (and that without seeing)
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birdlady
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response 15 of 128:
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Aug 2 14:11 UTC 1996 |
<applauds>
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mta
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response 16 of 128:
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Aug 3 15:32 UTC 1996 |
I don't know of any women (and few men) who aren't at least a little
annoyed with some aspect of their appearance. That's sad -- because on
the whole, I think people are very beautiful.
I think that point of view has been especially strengthened by my contacts
with the naturists/nudist commuity and my contacts with the body image
acceptance movement. That and my Mum used to say "The most beautiful face
is the one you love." As a kid I used to play a game using that adage. I'd
site in a crowded place and pick a person at random and ask myself:
"If I loved you, what would you look like,..?" Odd how many very plain
or even "ugly" people came to seem very pleasant to the eyes indeed -- and
how many"beautiful" people came to seem interchangable.
Knowing all this, of course, only helps a little on the days I feel like the
creature from the Black Lagoon. <grin>
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beeswing
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response 17 of 128:
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Aug 4 15:43 UTC 1996 |
Like I said... not gonna get my nose fixed. Though I would definitely get my
thighs lipsuctioned if it were a 100% safe procedure. :) Nothing charming
about thigh fat.
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mta
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response 18 of 128:
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Aug 4 21:24 UTC 1996 |
Say what??? Round dumpling thighs are extremely sexy! (Ever seen a
page out of Vogue or Elle on a garage mechanic's wall???)
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redfox
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response 19 of 128:
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Aug 5 01:04 UTC 1996 |
you don't see celluliter thighs on garage mechanics walls, but you do see many
store bought breasts...er cellulite.
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clees
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response 20 of 128:
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Aug 6 06:33 UTC 1996 |
Yeah, but they're cheating. Cilicone breasts.
Seen that boxer from Tonga at the olympics?
He said big men and women are considered examples of real beauty
overthere (he himself weighed about 140 kilograms).
Now, I won't say everybody should stop dieting and emigrate
to Tonga.
But I guess this image of slimness for women and muscle boundness for
men has been thrust upon us by the media.
Say for yourself, Marilyn Monroe wasn't really that slender.
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birdlady
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response 21 of 128:
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Aug 6 13:47 UTC 1996 |
<high fives clees>
The women who were considered "sexy" have become thinner and thinner as the
media keeps pumping out images of what they consider "true beauty". Look at
statues of the ancient Greek women. They resembled today's average female...a
size 14. In fact, I was watching a special on baroque dancers from the
twenties and thirties, and not a single one didn't have a pudgy section. I
think the thinnest woman was about a size eight.
I agree with your Marilyn Monroe point. She was beautiful, sexy, charming,
and had slightly chunky thighs. =)
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clees
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response 22 of 128:
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Aug 7 06:43 UTC 1996 |
Not only that, but media are forming the human picture into soemsort
of grotesque charicaturecaricature:
the women lean and thin with very big breasts (back problems)
the men like chippendales (with the potency problems due to steroidfeeding)
Booooooring!
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otter
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response 23 of 128:
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Aug 8 12:44 UTC 1996 |
It doesn't matter how big or small you are; it's your health that matters.
As soon as Kate Moss keeps up with me on a cross-country hike, we'll talk.
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birdlady
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response 24 of 128:
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Aug 8 14:16 UTC 1996 |
<giggle> She's right...
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