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popcorn
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"Pro-sex" feminists?
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Nov 11 15:34 UTC 1994 |
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brighn
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response 1 of 12:
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Nov 12 00:41 UTC 1994 |
There are, to my count, a burgeoning number of feminists out there. A brief
synopsis of terms, as far as I have been able to suss them out (because of
my plumbing, I am often excluded from these conversations, but I'll stick
my foot in my mouth anyway...):
Feminist: someon who believes that females are human, too.
Separatist: someone who believes that females are human. Only.
Power feminist: someone who believes that the separatists sit around all
day bitching about how they've been screwed by the system and the faceless/
nameless/well-hung "Patriarchy" when their time should be spent actually
working to improve their condition by re-establishing strong female niches
in mainstream society (whether it is nobler to suffer the slings and arrows
of outrageous fortune or, by opposing, END THEM).
Pro-sex feminist: someone who believe that the separatists need to get laid
By the amount of content I've writen for each one, I guess you can guess which
one I am. :-)
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headdoc
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response 2 of 12:
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Nov 12 00:49 UTC 1994 |
Where am I living?? I have never heard of the term :-(. I have always been
a feminist (and proud of it) and I have always been pro-sex (and proud of
it). But I never knew I had a category which encompassed both orientations.
The label does omit an awful lot else about me.
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brighn
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response 3 of 12:
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Nov 12 01:19 UTC 1994 |
(I wonder if Paglia counts as a pro-sex feminist? I think so.)
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sonja
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response 4 of 12:
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Dec 26 22:05 UTC 1994 |
Here is my 2 Trillion Cents worth. I am a 27 year old feminist and at that
a International-Feminist. The agenda is if you forgot is the Human Earth right
to walk on this planet, as who we are. Sexuality is what is use to oppress
all women, yes even in usa,. The mere fact that women here in usa do not
own their bodies let alone their sexuality, for example there are still
males who believe that lesbians *fuck* women and *fuck* women over[D Ohh oops
sorry for the *f**** but that is an example of the opression of sexuality in
this country. women need to redefine their sexuality. To make this short and
something to think about, hink how could a women redefine her sexuality without
the opressive influence of males, I think the sexuality of lesbian and Bisexual
women ar making some attempts, and Madonna was good at selling the idea of a
women in charge, sexually speaking. So to get back to the point, since a can't
scroll-up and insert. Lesbian and Bisexual women
have a differt outlook towards sex, and I think that they are trying to
let the mainstream women Know that sex is human and they have civil rights
in bed.
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aruba
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response 5 of 12:
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Dec 27 05:37 UTC 1994 |
I didn't understand that part about "there are still some males who believe
that lesbians ..." - could you explain what you meant there, Sonja?
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simcha
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Dec 27 13:14 UTC 1994 |
Wow, are there a lot of women out there who must be going out (read:
sleeping with) the wrong men! I have never had trouble with my "civil
rights" in bed! Im very mainstream,a nd believe that if you make your
bed, you lie in it for any of you old enough to remember the expression!
In other words, don't get angry at the world if your SO is overpowering
in bed! Get an SO who respects you and whom you respect. All else will
follow.
What a lot of bitterness! :(
I feel sorry for people who are so angry with men, instead of enjoying
the company of all kinds of people.
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mta
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response 7 of 12:
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Dec 27 18:52 UTC 1994 |
Simcha,
I'm old enough to remember "You make your your bed, you lie in it." I also
grew up around a whole bunch of the most andro-centric I've ever encountered.
I was married at 21, and hadn't a clue that there were better SO's to be
had. I was raised with the idea of marrying a man and keeping him
happy, making lots of babies, and doing what I was told. By the time
I found out whatI crock I'd been fed all my life I was *PISSED*! I went
through a 3 year period of being a separatist who hated men on principle
and hated what I thought they stood for.
It was very healing. I took the next step in part because I had two young sons
and didn't want to raise them to feel as badly about them as I had been raised
to feel. As soon as I started looking around again, with trust in my heart (at
least some of the time) I began to encounter a different sort of man. A
gentle, egalitarian man who could like me for who I am; who didn't need me to
do as he said to think of me as a good person; who didn't, for that matter,
have trouble thinking of me as a person.
I think that, unfortunate and unfair as it is, an angry separatist
period is necessary and healing for some women and will be as long as
there are pockets of our society where men are absolutely in charge
and taking unfair advantage of it. I apologize in my heart to any
good men I hurt with my unreasoning anger during that period. But
I don't apologize for the anger. Until I purged myself of the self
hate I wasn't capable of being an equal to anyone; that required a
cleansing fire.
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sonja
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response 8 of 12:
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Dec 31 18:20 UTC 1994 |
...Bumped off....To continue The only sex activity that is be taught is the
power trippin' stuff...therefore..If a womoon is not gettin' F^^^^ she must be
the power abuser..Yet if this is still not clear I suggest looking within...Or
b
Yet look at Women and their Role models..I must said my role model are few and
long Dead..S.Truth, Nznigha, and all women who were killed for speakin' the
truth on matters of oppression in their time..for the benefit of us all..Sad
those lessons...A The "My Favorite Son" syndrome still exist..Yet I love
myself more than I dislke men for Males have not proven themselves....In the
majority ..worthy of any Womoon..So..Learn or We shall all
vanish..Seriously..I don't like the Way men our butcherin wome
n and children over land and stones...Bosina..South Africa..USA..etc..
Grow or you are NOT MY BROTHErs..
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sonja
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response 9 of 12:
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Dec 31 18:29 UTC 1994 |
...Yeah My letter is Choppy...< Auto Return?> Well I need to Telnet The NEt
But it was all in reply to Mark C.
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aruba
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response 10 of 12:
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Jan 1 19:05 UTC 1995 |
What is the "My Favorite Son" syndrome?
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popcorn
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response 11 of 12:
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Jan 2 02:20 UTC 1995 |
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gracel
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response 12 of 12:
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Jan 2 03:30 UTC 1995 |
Comment on #7-- Anger is a force. And some people need the energy
of their own anger before they can do what needs to be done.
Ideally the anger would be under one's own thoughtful control,
but most of these situations are far from ideal!
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