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scott
Where to scrouge materials from Mark Unseen   Feb 10 12:09 UTC 1998

Let's build a list of good places to get used/cheap/free materials from.
42 responses total.
scott
response 1 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 12:13 UTC 1998

One seasonal way to get lumber and other things free is when the students move
out at the end of a term, esp. when year leases run out.  Old lofts and other
goodies, right on the curb!  If I have my wits about me this spring (happens
rarely, though), I'll try to take my Dad's pickup around and try to get a full
load or two.

There's the Reuse Center on South Industrial.  Lots of doors and windows,
along with lumber (not that cheap), sinks, toilets, etc. and misc. plumbing
and wiring.

I've heard there is a scrap place near the Broadway bridge; anybody care to
elaborate more?
other
response 2 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 00:06 UTC 1998

hey, scott!  i'll be happy to go around and scrounge with you, in your (dad's)
truck.  i'll help with the spotting and lifting, and see if there'e anything
useful i'd like to fight over.  <grin>
scott
response 3 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 00:38 UTC 1998

Let me know when that magic move-out is, ok?  I live a sheltered life.
orinoco
response 4 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 04:55 UTC 1998

I've actually been to the scrap shop near the Broadway bridge.  I doubt it
would be too good for finding materials for projects, but it's a good source
for random hunks of metal to use in art or some such.  
keesan
response 5 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 05:17 UTC 1998

Freedman's on Broadway deals in non-ferrous metal, including an occasional
kitchen sink, odd lots of copper plumbing fixtures, electrical wiring,
stainless steel mouse cages, etc., all by the pound.  They also buy by the
pound - aluminum, copper, stainless.  Will recycle old computer boards,
aluminum legs of chairs, etc.
        Fingerle's will let you take an occasional 4' 2x4 when you buy
something.
        Dumpsters around downtown often have old drywall, insulation, and
computers, and oscilloscopes, and bookshelves, and swivel chairs, lumber with
nails in it, electrical outlets.
        Once found a dumpster full of irregular socks, just waiting for the
toes to be sewn together, outside the factory.  They sell new for $8.
        BIkes are often thrown out by departing students.
keesan
response 6 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 23:52 UTC 1998

In the parking lot near the Fireside Store on Huron is a dumpster which is
regularly stocked by an HVAC contractor with all sorts of sheet metal.  They
also put furnaces and things out that you can take.  And a remodeler
working nearby gives away doors, windows, steps, etc, puts them out so people
will see them and take them away.
orinoco
response 7 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 03:55 UTC 1998

In general, just keep your eyes on the curbside when you're out walking, and
you'll see all sorts of great junk you never realized you needed up until that
moment.  This coming from the guy with a metal plate in his pocket 'just
because', of course.
keesan
response 8 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 04:49 UTC 1998

Tonight while cutting through the alley across from Zola's, we
found a discarded (marked discard) TTL amber monitor, which I am
now using, and a 386 with the memory chips removed.  There
are often interesting things in the downtown alleys.  We took
things apart to the stage where they would fit into two bike
panniers, my front basket (most of the monitor), and two back racks (the 386
was a particularly large one).  Oddly enough, nobody stole anything
off our bikes when we parked to go to a free movie.
scott
response 9 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 18:05 UTC 1998

Walking a lot tends to get you close to sources of things.  On my way to work
today, I trash picked a VCR.  There's a repair tag indicating that the owner
had it looked at and decided to buy a new one, so it is going to need some
kind of work.  However, I peeked in the tape door and noticed a toy car in
the works!
other
response 10 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 18:26 UTC 1998

<lol>
keesan
response 11 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 20:58 UTC 1998

Scott, if you get good at VCRs we could certainly use your help fixing the
easy ones, at least, for Kiwanis.  About 10 have accumulated, the donated ones
never seem to work.  Sorry we did not have time to do more than say hello to
you last Saturday, can you make it in Mon or Thurs?
        I hope the owner did not get charged $20 for the look-at.  We sold a
phonograph to someone who had been charged $20 to be told their was some tape
stuck in her tape player, which was why it did not work.  You would think they
could have taken 5 minutes to fix it for the same charge.
        You are welcome to donate the toy car to Kiwanis, we can display it
with some pertinent comment, in our top shelf museum.
scg
response 12 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 06:52 UTC 1998

I got sick of the time I was spending maintaining my VCR and bought a new one
this weekend.  I should have done that a long time ago, since the new one is
much nicer than the old one ever was.  I'll probably keep the old one around
for sometime when I get bored.
keesan
response 13 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 18:43 UTC 1998

I am curious what type of maintenance the old one needed which the new one
might not need.
scg
response 14 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 02:54 UTC 1998

The old one constantly had various things breaking (a problem that started
after it was several years old).  I'm hoping I'll get several years of use
out of the new one before things start breaking in it.

In addition, the new one also has a much better picture, hi fi stereo sound
(which the old one didn't have), and does much better at TV reception, which
is rather important since I don't have cable.
keesan
response 15 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 8 00:52 UTC 1998

Could you give us some ideas what sorts of things break in VCRs, as we are
trying to fix a bunch of them.  Cleaning the head and belts often helps, but
we have an odd one with a wavy picture that is okay when there is only one
line of text across the middle of the screen (and that is also the only time
it is in color), same problem using either a tape or the tuner.  It appears
to be some electronic problem in the output, but what do we do next, other
than give up on it?  Check transistors or capacitors?
arthurp
response 16 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 15 23:29 UTC 1998

Voltage makes sense to me since it works in low drive situations, but 
when it tries to drive too many pixels it wigs out.  But I don't really 
know anything about VCRs.
keesan
response 17 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 16 02:33 UTC 1998

We have another one that might need a height adjustment, the top quarter or
so of the picturee is in color, the rest has a white overlay with short black
streaks.  (The repair book says to consult the specifications - hah!- and use
the adjustment gigs.  We can't make it any less usable by trying.)
arthurp
response 18 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 17 02:50 UTC 1998

Oh, if I make it over to Kiwanis sometime I should just beat on the door even
though it's locked?  I guess?
keesan
response 19 of 42: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 18:07 UTC 1998

No, if it is Mon or Thurs 9-12 the door is unlocked, if it is Mon or Thurs
pm, call us first at 665-2211, we may be there until late, or call us the day
before and we can be sure to be there for you Mon or Thurs.  (Jim does not
have a way to get in other days).  Sat afternoon is also possible.  Let us
know today whether to stay longer tomorrow.  995-9463
scott
response 20 of 42: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 21:36 UTC 1999

Today I went to the Ann Arbor Reuse Center.  This is a place on South
Industrial where they collect and resell things.  It had been several months
since I'd been there.

They are now *stuffed* with things.  It's more like a huge garage sale than
a building material salvage place; with old skis, coffee mugs, and novels.
Sort of a huge version of the Kiwanis sale that also has doors and windows
and such.
keesan
response 21 of 42: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 03:28 UTC 1999

Jim thinks it looks more like a junkyard than Kiwanis, which is more selective
and has more volunteers putting in more sorting hours, but the prices are
lower at Reuse Center (if you can find what you are hunting for).  They have
a much better selection of building materials - doors, windows, sinks,
toilets, lumber, plenty of paint, sand, concrete, light fixtures, etc.  The
clothing is by the bag, the computers are as is.  They have the advantage of
being open every day (Kiwanis only Sat am), but are not well heated.  The
people working there are very nice and simply cannot keep up with it all. 
Also have lots of very part time volunteers.  They do not take beds, but they
seem to accept nearly anything else (so far, they will fill up soon).
rcurl
response 22 of 42: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 04:55 UTC 1999

I needed a sheet of 1/8" pressboard and a piece of 1.5 inch PVC pipe.
Got it all for $1 at Reuse. 
keesan
response 23 of 42: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 00:21 UTC 1999

We needed 3" PVC and they only had the grey electrical type.
Cheapest prices in town for paint, and a large color selection.
keesan
response 24 of 42: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 20:53 UTC 2000

Reuse Center no longer accepts paint.  We were able to give away two five
gallon buckets that Klaus could not give to the Reuse Center by offering them
to our neighbors, who realized that they only had to add a bit of white to
have enough to paint their house all the same color.

Jim recycled a box spring - pulled off the cloth, cut off the springs
(recyclable as ferrous metal) and took apart the 5/8" x 3-5" wood slats to
use as garden stakes.  Recently we needed wood roughly 1/2" thick to use in
framing a porch for ventilation hatches and it was just the thing.  We may
have the only porch built partly of a bedspring!  Angle iron (bedframe) was
also useful for stiffening some top plates.  And for installing a windows (at
Kiwanis) in a block wall that needed to be held up over the window.  It is
probably stronger than the material sold for that purpose.
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