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keesan
General philosophy and definitions Mark Unseen   Jan 13 14:48 UTC 1998

What is a do-it-yourselfer?  Please improve on this attempt at a definition.
A person who does something that most people would pay to have done.  This
includes both making and fixing objects, and other services.  It does not
include most aspects of such common activities as gardening, cooking,
cleaning, sports and recreation, but would for instance include building your
own toolshed or mending skis.  A do-it-yourselfer differs from a consumer by
investing more time and less money.  Do all do-it-yourself projects involve
tools?  Are hands tools?  Are heads tools?  What is a tool?
    Many of the items in dwellings, cars, and computer hardware are related
to this conference.  Should we link any or all of them?  Please also keep an
eye out for related items in laundry, radio, and other hobbies.
    To keep the list of items a manageable size, I suggest entering not
'vacuum cleaner repair' as an item, but 'small appliance repair'.  What would
be helpful categories?  Large appliances, small appliances, furniture, toys,
clothing, gadgets, tools, vehicles (including bikes and canoes), services
(piano tuning, haircutting, even dental work?)...
108 responses total.
scott
response 1 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 00:53 UTC 1998

Sounds good to me, although I wouldn't necessarily want to stop creation of
a "vacuum cleaner repair" item.  Maybe in a year or so I'll want to look up
something from that item, and having the header reflect the contents will help
a lot.  From the dwellings conf, I found that there won't be an unmanageble
number of items anyway.
arthurp
response 2 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 03:57 UTC 1998

Cool!  It's here.  :)  Well, I'm off to catch up and enter an item.
orinoco
response 3 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 04:48 UTC 1998

Wow...I like.  Cool.  I'll have to add this to my list of places to lurk.
gracel
response 4 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 21:38 UTC 1998

"Use it up, wear it out; make it do, or do without."
orinoco
response 5 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 04:15 UTC 1998

(I like the handle, btw, grace)
davel
response 6 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 19:10 UTC 1998

heh
gibson
response 7 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 04:29 UTC 1998

        This conf. should be dedicated to the free worlds greatest benefactor,
the inventor of duct tape. And i suggest Red Green as a FW.
keesan
response 8 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 16:50 UTC 1998

There are duct tape people, scotch tape people (my mother used it to hold down
floor tiles), electrical tape people, masking tape people...  
n8nxf
response 9 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 02:07 UTC 1998

I don't have too much use for duct tape.  I have some wrapped around my
kayaking water bottle should I put a hole in my craft.  Hot met glue is
useful stuff too.
keesan
response 10 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 05:41 UTC 1998

How many uses are there for a wire coat hanger?  Dowsing rods....
rcurl
response 11 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 07:52 UTC 1998

It's just iron wire, if you have a use for such. It is rather too heavy
for a lot of uses. I keep a variety of guages of galvanized iron wire
(lighter than coat hanger wire). I don't even have any jigs or tools
that I've made from such wire. One uncommon use is to pass through -
i.e., start at your head the pass the wire coat hanger down over you
until you can lift your feet out of it. Cavers do this at parties. I
used to fit.....
n8nxf
response 12 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 12:31 UTC 1998

We use a lot of coat hanger wire wire in making Halloween costumes for
the kids.  It's good for stiffening tails and ears.  Sometimes I will
bend it into hooks and such for hanging pictures, pipes, etc.
other
response 13 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 19:06 UTC 1998

i prefer gaffer's tape to duct tape.  it is much easier to remove neatly, ad
is thus significantly more expensive.  that is a drawback...
keesan
response 14 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 21:29 UTC 1998

We made clips to hold up the glass under a recessed porch light out of
coat-hanger wire, but it is not springy enough.  A piece of piano wire would
work better, from one of the lower strings.  Coat hangers make good tools,
probes.  (This is my roommate speaking, who just uses whatever is within reach
for the job at hand.  I lose a lot of paperclips that way too, they and safety
pins are indispensable for electronics work.)
orinoco
response 15 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 04:14 UTC 1998

(What is the difference between gaffers' and duct tape?)
other
response 16 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 07:26 UTC 1998

gaff tape has a matte surface instead of the glossy surface of duct tape.
it is also a cloth tape, and functions very similarly except, as noted above,
it is much easier to remove cleanly.  in fact this latter characteristic is
the primary one for which it is preferred.  it makes great labelling tape for
cables ends for shows, when if a cable should come undone, you want to be
quickly able to find where it goes.  white gaff tape is also commonly used
for marking the locations of hazards in the wings where people would be likely
to trip over them in the low light.
keesan
response 17 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 22:45 UTC 1998

What is a gaffer?
scott
response 18 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 00:23 UTC 1998

It's a stage or movie job.  Gaffers tend to tape things down a lot.
keesan
response 19 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 01:09 UTC 1998

I know it has something to do with movies, but other than apply tape, what
do they do?
orinoco
response 20 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 03:22 UTC 1998

(They gaff, perhaps?)

I've always wondered that, too.  That, and what grips do.
scott
response 21 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 12:18 UTC 1998

I'm fuzzy on the actual definition, but I think that gaffers work in a "catch
all" capacity, such as taping down wires that might trip people up.  In
theatre, sets are worked on by carpenters, lights by electricians, props by
propmen (prop people nowadays), so there isn't anything obvious left over.
Cable taping is usually handled by the department that put the wires down,
so I'm not sure there really is a "gaffer" role in theatre.
keesan
response 22 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 15:25 UTC 1998

We see them in the credits for movies and videos.  Grips move around the
lighting and sound equipment, microphones etc.
bruin
response 23 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 16:42 UTC 1998

BTW, who is the "Best Boy" in movie credits?  (I have heard of madcap 
comedy movies whose credits list Adolf Hitler as "Worst Boy.")
other
response 24 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 23:43 UTC 1998

i'm not an expert on film title usage, but i'll try:
grips move equipment, such as lighting and frames which support it.
electricians set up the lighting on those frames (and cable them?)
best boy, i think, is head of the crew of either electricians or grips
gaffers deal with cables after they're run, either keeping them out of sight
        or from being hazards.

that's a list of educated guesses.
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