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mvpel
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Whittier College Republicans to hold "Affirmative Action Bake Sale"
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Jan 19 17:36 UTC 2003 |
Whittier College Republicans have come up with a real winner! On Thursday,
January the Whittier CR's will hold an "Affirmative Action Bake Sale."
Further assisting their Admissions Office in the selection of patrons
based on a complex formula of prices, Caucasian patrons will accordingly be
charged more than their minority classmates. Quotas of so many sales to
Caucasian males per hour will be put in place. To help diversify the pool
of patrons, special discounts will be given to those who do not posses the
funds necessary to purchase given goods, but do happen to meet a certain
ethnic, gender, and sexual makeup.
With the University of Michigan case making national headlines, the time is
ripe for this debate. Holding truth, justice, and equality for all mankind on
our side, the Whittier College Republicans are taking action to bring the
absurdity of race preferences in a school's admissions policy to the
forefront!!!
Parties interested in learning more about the Whittier event are encouraged
to email Whittier College Republican President Jess Craven at:
jesscraven@hotmail.com. Other inquiries can be made to
Brandon@capitalistkindergarten.com.
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gull
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response 1 of 217:
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Jan 19 18:14 UTC 2003 |
Maybe we could have a "Bush Tax Cut Bake Sale", where the richer you
are, the more of a refund you get on your purchase price.
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other
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response 2 of 217:
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Jan 19 19:51 UTC 2003 |
The concept has ingenuity, the execution will undoubtedly be mitigated by
bias and general idiocy.
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other
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response 3 of 217:
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Jan 19 19:55 UTC 2003 |
I certainly hope the Whittier administration and any doubtful parties on
campus withhold action against this until the CR's show just exactly how
much collective idiocy they can publicly saddle themselves with in the
process. With luck, irony will win the day, and the CR's will prove
exactly the point they are attempting to demonstrate their incapacity to
understand.
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carson
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response 4 of 217:
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Jan 19 20:11 UTC 2003 |
(Eric is obviously right, and not just because he's not one of the obvious
minority groups. The Whittier College Republicans clearly don't
understand the issues present in the U-M case and have blatantly
oversimplified and misinterpreted them for this purpose. For one thing,
minority groups should be charged *less* for the baked goods instead of
charging the non-minorities more for said goods. Also, the criteria for
selling the baked goods fails to take into account the educational
background of the patron. Even in the U-M point system, it's possible to
get up to 120 points for having a good educational background, whereas
minorities and athletes only get 20 points for their respective non-
academic-related quality. If I were in a position to advise these
misguided [an adjective made apropos by their choice of Whittier College
as a place of higher learning] individuals, I would strongly suggest they
take into account whether the patron has successfully completed a culinary
arts curriculum or burns ramen on a regular basis.)
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klg
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response 5 of 217:
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Jan 19 20:25 UTC 2003 |
re: "#1 (gull):Maybe we could have a "Bush Tax Cut Bake Sale", where
the richer you are, the more of a refund you get on your purchase
price."
In order for this to work, the top 10% would have to pay for 90% of the
cost of the cookies, however, with the lowest 1/4 getting them for free.
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aaron
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response 6 of 217:
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Jan 19 20:54 UTC 2003 |
Actually, the only difference in pricing should relate to the price of
admission. Afterward, everybody pays the same price.
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carson
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response 7 of 217:
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Jan 19 21:12 UTC 2003 |
(there are all sorts of other unanswered questions that come to mind. what
kind of baked goods are these? what's the baked good equivalent of a PE
class? is a pfeffernusse an honors baked good? are they using white or
brown sugar? will the proceeds be used to purchase bombers so that more
tax dollars can be allocated to education, just like the bumper stickers
say should happen?)
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scott
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response 8 of 217:
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Jan 19 23:31 UTC 2003 |
To complete both gull and klg's analogy, there should be a whole class of
people who did the baking but rarely got to eat any of the completed pastries.
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fitz
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response 9 of 217:
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Jan 20 15:15 UTC 2003 |
The unackowledged bakers, decorators and crumb-catchers (afterward) would be
the beneficiaries of trickle-down economics. Mmmm. cake crumbs.
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mvpel
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response 10 of 217:
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Jan 20 22:24 UTC 2003 |
Re:5 - what I've read is that the top 50% of income earners pay 96% of the
total income taxes collected.
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tod
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response 11 of 217:
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Jan 20 22:39 UTC 2003 |
This response has been erased.
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gull
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response 12 of 217:
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Jan 21 01:35 UTC 2003 |
Re #4: No one on the right seems interested in the actual facts of the
case, just in opposing it. Otherwise Bush would have known better than
to call it a "quota system".
Re #5: But of course as a kickback the top 10% would get all the
influence over what cookies are baked and where they're sold.
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keesan
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response 13 of 217:
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Jan 21 01:47 UTC 2003 |
How does a fw link something to a conference?
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other
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response 14 of 217:
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Jan 21 02:23 UTC 2003 |
re #12: You just paraphrased exactly what Mary Sue Coleman said today.
(Or maybe it was at the Regents meeting Friday.)
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klg
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response 15 of 217:
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Jan 21 02:31 UTC 2003 |
re: "#12 (gull): Re #4: No one on the right seems interested in the
actual facts of the case, just in opposing it. Otherwise Bush would
have known better than to call it a "quota system"."
Perhaps you could enlighten us, then, by explaining how a "critical
mass" system is distinguished from a "quota" system.
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mdw
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response 16 of 217:
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Jan 21 02:39 UTC 2003 |
I'm not gull, but I'll cheerfully offer an explanation using the
familiar world of a police officer considering whether to go after
somebody who is speeding:
Quota system
My ass is grass if I don't make 30 arrests this month.
Critical Mass System
I haven't had my donut yet. I'm going to be lean
and mean until I make an arrest or get my donut.
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jep
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Jan 21 03:12 UTC 2003 |
re resp:13: Sindi, if you're the fw, change to the conference you want
to link to, then type:
linkfrom agora 89
(that would link this item to that conference.)
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gull
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response 18 of 217:
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Jan 21 14:22 UTC 2003 |
Re #15: In a quota system, you'd have a specific number of slots to fill
(a "quota") and you'd admit minorities until you filled them. You'd
then fill the rest of the slots from the general population. That's not
how the U of M system works. In fact, the percentage of minority
students admitted varies from year to year, which it wouldn't do under a
quota system.
The University of Michigan system is, as I understand it, actually
pretty carefully crafted to fall within boundaries set by previous
Supreme Court cases.
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klg
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response 19 of 217:
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Jan 21 17:45 UTC 2003 |
That does not clarify it for me. How does "quota" mean a "specific #,"
while "critical mass" does not?
If Justice Powell wrote in Bakke that '(p)referring members of any one
group for no reason other than race or ethnic origin is discrimination
for its own sake," how does the UM system conform to that provision?
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johnnie
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response 20 of 217:
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Jan 21 22:03 UTC 2003 |
Because it takes a lot more than just being black to get into UofM.
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klg
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response 21 of 217:
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Jan 22 01:24 UTC 2003 |
That may be, johnnie. But now, try to answer the question.
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johnnie
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response 22 of 217:
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Jan 22 01:49 UTC 2003 |
Q: If Justice Powell wrote in Bakke that '(p)referring members of any
one group for **no reason other than race or ethnic origin** is
discrimination for its own sake," how does the UM system conform to that
provision?
A: Because it takes a lot more than just being black to get into UofM.
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klg
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response 23 of 217:
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Jan 22 01:51 UTC 2003 |
0 for 2.
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rcurl
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response 24 of 217:
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Jan 22 07:50 UTC 2003 |
More particularly, using race in the way UM does is NOT "no reason
other than race". Many reasons other than race are used in the admission
procedure. What UM does adheres exactly to what Powell said is allowable.
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