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hacking Mark Unseen   Jan 31 06:04 UTC 1998

anyone want to know how to hack?

well than e-mail me at cyberkiller_@hotmail.com!
108 responses total.
rcurl
response 1 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 06:54 UTC 1998

Gosh, I have this cold, and I would sure like to know how to *stop* hacking.
scott
response 2 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 13:08 UTC 1998

An elite hacker with an email account from hotmail?

(scott laughs scornfully)
rogue
response 3 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 14:13 UTC 1998

Microsoft bought hotmail. An elite hacker with a net connection from
Microsoft? :-)
mta
response 4 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 17:12 UTC 1998

<Giggle>  We certainly get all sorts here, don't we?

It's kinda fun because I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it.
mcnally
response 5 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 17:12 UTC 1998

  I AM 3L33T.  GIV3 M3 WAR3Z, DUD3!
ric
response 6 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 17:53 UTC 1998

I suppose hotmail addresses are hard to trace ownership of :)
raven
response 7 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 18:19 UTC 1998

Yes a hacker who can't find the cyberpunk conference. Pssstttt wanna buy
some 20 year old Romanian viruses?  Th8 hot kid.
gerund
response 8 of 108: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 23:23 UTC 1998

I like his use of "than" rather than "then".
ajax
response 9 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 00:17 UTC 1998

I don't like your assumption that "his" is the right pronoun!
(But I'd bet about 100 to 1 that you're right :-).
gerund
response 10 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 02:58 UTC 1998

I wasn't making an assumption.  I was making an educated quess.
mcnally
response 11 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 04:37 UTC 1998

  re #9:  didn't we have the pronoun/gender wars in the last Agora?  <yawn..>
franx
response 12 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 14:58 UTC 1998

why don't you geniuses get back to the original question, which is how to
hack?
I'd also like some info.
r
janc
response 13 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 16:30 UTC 1998

By "hack" do you mean gaining access to or on systems that you are
theoretically not supposed to have?

Basic question is, why bother?  If you can reliably do complex things
on computers correctly, then you are highly employable.  Not only will
people happily give you more access than you know what to do with, but they'll
pay you good money.

Because it is so easy to earn lots of money using technical knowledge to do
constructive things, it's not particularly surprising that the people who are
into "hacking" systems almost universally are either (1) totally lacking in
any real technical knowledge, or (2) otherwise so confused and disoriented
that they can't hold down real jobs.  Well, there are also a few marooned in
places like Russia and Romania who, due to the economic situations there, have
a hard time finding any constructive use for their skills.  That's why a
significant percentage of the very rare intelligent hackers come from places
like that.

Anyway, that's what people are joking about here.  It's very hard to take
seriously anyone who asks for help on how to commit a crime in a public
forum.
rcurl
response 14 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 19:52 UTC 1998

Well put. I'd venture that we have here on Grex many that could hack circles
around "cyberkiller", but that have more useful, interesting, enjoyable, or
remunerative things to do with their skills. I'm not among them, but even
the objective of "hacking" to harm or snoop in other systems, strikes me
as childish, puerile, uneducated, and lame.
albaugh
response 15 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 16:20 UTC 1998

My definitions:  Hacking - the ability to use tools & techniques to find out
things or "get things to work" when the standard methods to do this are
unavailable or ineffective.  Cracking - using Hacking for illegitimate,
harmful, etc. purposes, such as breaking into a computer system.
remmers
response 16 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 17:33 UTC 1998

That's usually the way I use the term "hacking" also.
other
response 17 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 18:23 UTC 1998

driving a cab, or dry coughing...
rcurl
response 18 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 18:47 UTC 1998

My dictionary does not give a computer related definition, but other
interesting meanings, in addition to a cough or a cab, are: literary drudge;
to make a word trite; to kick someone's shins (in football or basketball);
and of course, to chop or mangle. 
raven
response 19 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 01:45 UTC 1998

Now linked to the cyberpunk confernce, your conference of online culture,
counterculture, hacking, cracking, and hacky-sacking. :-)
orinoco
response 20 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 03:41 UTC 1998

What about hewing and slaying - do you discuss those too?
rcurl
response 21 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 03:57 UTC 1998

I'm beginning to suspect that cyberkiller just tossed this item out to
get attention, and hasn't been back. 
mcnally
response 22 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 18:22 UTC 1998

  And what if he has?  Item hijacking is a Grex Specialty (tm).
gothgal
response 23 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 18:32 UTC 1998

Nopers Dan. They only discusssuspension bondage and medeival torture. Tee hee!
remmers
response 24 of 108: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 18:51 UTC 1998

Re #21: Yep, he said to email him if interested. (At hotmail.com,
of all places.)
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