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k8cpa
Mp3's? Mark Unseen   Mar 7 21:52 UTC 2000

Does anyone else here collect classic rock MP3's ?





here's what I got.




Volume in drive C is HOLYSHIT   
 Volume Serial Number is 3F34-1BFF
 Directory of C:\temp

.              <DIR>        01-01-99  1:04a .
..             <DIR>        01-01-99  1:04a ..
JIMIHE~1 MP3     6,634,468  02-19-00 11:34a Jimi Hendrix - Wild Thing.mp3
JIMIHE~2 MP3     3,760,379  02-19-00 11:32a Jimi Hendrix - I Don't Live
Today.mp3
HENDRI~1 MP3     5,378,048  02-17-00 10:44p Hendrix, Jimi - AXIS- - If 6 Was
9.mp3
JANISJ~1 MP3     5,093,804  02-19-00 11:28a Janis Joplin - Piece of my
Heart.mp3
METALL~1 MP3     6,240,296  02-18-00  1:23p metallica-one.mp3
ALLMAN~1 MP3    10,207,352  02-20-00  4:41p Allman Brothers Band-Whipping
Post.mp3
ELECTR~1 MP3     4,182,639  02-19-00 11:23a Electric Light Orchestra - Evil
Woman.mp3
ELO-ST~1 MP3     4,986,408  02-19-00 11:23a ELO - Strange Magic.mp3
LYNARD~1 MP3     8,757,787  02-19-00 12:33a Lynard Skynard- Freebird.mp3
CHICAG~1 MP3     7,241,728  02-18-00 10:11p Chicago - I'm a Man.mp3
STEVIE~1 MP3     3,958,784  02-19-00 12:03p Stevie Ray Vaughn - Shake for Me
(Live).mp3
CREAM-~1 MP3     4,060,296  02-19-00 12:39p Cream - CrossRoads.mp3
MOUNTA~1 MP3     3,063,681  02-19-00  1:15p Mountain - Mississippi Queen.mp3
RODSTE~1 MP3     4,806,840  02-19-00  1:42p Rod Stewart - Maggie Mae.mp3
DEEP_P~1 MP3     5,530,344  02-19-00  3:46p Deep_Purple_-_Woman_From_Tokyo.mp3
DOOBIE~1 MP3     4,411,014  02-20-00  3:21p Doobie Brothers - Jesus is Just
Alright.mp3
BLACKS~1 MP3     4,572,079  02-19-00  3:35p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 01 - Black Sabbath.mp3
BLACKS~2 MP3     3,165,541  02-19-00  3:38p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 02 - The Wizard.mp3
BLACKS~3 MP3     2,053,352  02-19-00  3:41p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 03 - Paranoid.mp3
BLACKS~4 MP3     5,733,483  02-19-00  3:46p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 04 - War Pigs.mp3
BLACKS~5 MP3     4,293,718  02-19-00  3:49p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 05 - Iron Man.mp3
BLACKS~6 MP3     2,285,006  02-19-00  3:51p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 06 - Tomorrow's Dream.mp3
BLACKS~7 MP3     4,514,400  02-19-00  3:55p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 07 - Fairies Wear Boots.mp3
BLACKS~8 MP3     3,431,050  02-19-00  3:58p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 08 - Changes.mp3
BLACKS~9 MP3     3,678,249  02-19-00  4:48p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 09 - Sweet Leaf.mp3
BLACK~10 MP3     3,854,547  02-19-00  4:05p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 10 - Children Of The Grave.mp3
BLACK~11 MP3     4,126,325  02-19-00  4:10p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 11 - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.mp3
BLACK~12 MP3     3,076,516  02-19-00  4:13p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 12 - Am I Going Insane- (Radio).mp3
BLACK~13 MP3     3,977,114  02-19-00  4:16p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 13 - Snowblind.mp3
BLACK~14 MP3     4,525,372  02-19-00  4:20p Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Soul
For Rock 'N' Roll - 14 - N.I.B..mp3
MOTTTH~1 MP3     6,688,310  03-06-00 11:32p Mott the Hoople -All the young
dudes .mp3
JIMCRO~1 MP3     3,654,329  02-20-00  3:47p Jim Croce - Operator.mp3
JIMIHE~4 MP3    12,077,056  02-24-00  1:59p Jimi Hendrix (Band of Gypsys) -
Machine Gun.mp3
LEDZEP~1 MP3     7,074,792  02-22-00  1:06p Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin III
- Since I've Been Loving You.mp3
JUDASP~1 MP3     1,835,269  02-24-00 11:34p Judas Priest - You've Got Another
Thing Coming.mp3
EDWINS~1 MP3     4,057,656  02-25-00  6:50p Edwin Starr - War (What Is It Good
For).mp3
BLOOD_~1 MP3     4,821,681  03-06-00  6:31p Blood, Sweat & Tears - Spinning
Wheel.mp3
GUESSW~1 MP3     4,691,968  03-06-00  7:16p Guess Who - No Sugar Tonight &
New Mother Nature.mp3
GUESSW~2 MP3     4,210,688  03-06-00  7:37p Guess Who -  Share the Land.mp3
THEBAN~1 MP3     4,341,760  03-07-00  1:25p The Band - Up On Cripple Creek.mp3
FILES    TXT             0  03-07-00  4:12p files.txt
        41 file(s)    195,054,129 bytes
         2 dir(s)       10,407.85 MB free


anyone?

also anyone else use napster?

183 responses total.
crmatt
response 1 of 183: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 00:09 UTC 2000

 I love napster.
email me at crmatt@cyberspace.org if you want info about it.
raven
response 2 of 183: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 19:41 UTC 2000

Yes the digital music revolution is here and the record companies are
going to have to just deal.  In the long run this be good for independent
artists because it will allow almost no cost distribution plus music
of all types will be available for download so artsist can broaden their
musical range.

Linked to cyberpunk.  Your conf of digital culture and controversy.
j cyber at the next Ok: prompt.
krj
response 3 of 183: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 22:06 UTC 2000

Salon runs a feature this week interviewing artists who are highly 
critical of Napster. 

http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2000/03/24/napster_artists/index.html
scott
response 4 of 183: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 23:31 UTC 2000

Interesting article, I read it a couple days ago or so.

I'm starting to wonder now whether the current star system can work at all
with a technology that permits many easy good copies.  Maybe... but the
megastar is really a recent phenomena based on the technology of radio and
recording.  Before that, there were stars in some areas (like opera), but the
distribution problems tended to limit exposure.  Now the problem is being able
to charge for "performances" (playbacks).

So do big recording artists deserve the opportunity to be megastars?  Should
they (or their representatives) be able to use some tech but prevent the use
of other tech that might cut into their receipts?
orinoco
response 5 of 183: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 01:55 UTC 2000

If anything, mp3s would seem to encourage the megastar thing.  It's only
really possible to find mp3s of someone who is famous enough to have their
music in high demand, and the more records you sell, the more likely it is
that you can survive a little piracy.  It's the medium-famous people who I'd
expect this to hurt the most.
scott
response 6 of 183: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 21:53 UTC 2000

Salon has another article (well, more like a commentary) on Napster:

http://salon.com/tech/col/rose/2000/03/30/napster/index.html

This is what I was saying in resp:4!  I'm a pundit now, I guess.  ;)
orinoco
response 7 of 183: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 22:14 UTC 2000

Hmm.
Thinking about it, I don't know if I agree with the article's claim that
technology created the pop music star.  As long as there have been music and
money, there have been people who'll pay to hear a good performer.  Who was
Mozart but a professional star musician, making the popular music of his time?

What's changed is the nature of the support system for those professional
musicians: rather than a lucky few succeeding on their own and the rest
depending on noble patrons and the church, we've got a few indie musicians
and the rest relying on the labels.  The main difference between the two is
that the labels benefit from supporting musicians by earning money, while
patrons benefited by gaining prestige.  

I'm not entirely sure how that changes things, but I think it's an important
correction.

scott
response 8 of 183: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 12:14 UTC 2000

Well, what was Mozart?  He was, for a while, "court composer".  This was about
as good as you could do, I'm guessing.  Doesn't mean he was a star like we
define today.  Rather, he worked on pieces requested by the king or other high
level music servants.  He also did some operas and such on the side, but it's
not like he could sell records or CDs.  Strictly live event revenues, split
up among the many performers.

The nobles had a lot of money to spend on high culture... but there weren't
that many nobles.  The commoners added up to a lot more people, but very
little money each.

In today's terms, he worked for the UM, played some shows at the Ark, but also
had to write songs for local Shania Twain wannabees to make ends meet.
orinoco
response 9 of 183: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 17:20 UTC 2000

That's a good way of thinking about it, actually.  
krj
response 10 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 20:47 UTC 2000

News item: Metallica is suing Napster, the University of Southern California,
Yale, and Indiana University on the grounds of copyright infringement.
orinoco
response 11 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 20:49 UTC 2000

They're suing the universities for letting Napster be used on their network,
I take it?
jules
response 12 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 21:39 UTC 2000

im obsessed with napster. whenever im on grex im usually downloading songs
from there to put onto cd's.
gelinas
response 13 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 14 03:19 UTC 2000

Indiana blocked Napster, until a means of limiting its bandwidth use was
developed.  I _guess_ that opens them up to "contributor infringement."

I *think* it was Indiana that hosted a conference on the subject of Napster,
music and copyright just this past weekend, too.
krj
response 14 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 19:05 UTC 2000

News item, continued.  Yale University has bowed to the Metallica lawsuit
and is blocking Napster.  Metallica, in response, has deleted Yale from 
its suit and has added a number of other universities, unnamed in the
news story I have from www.sonicnet.com.
carla
response 15 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 20:13 UTC 2000

in universities choose to block napster because of bandwidth issues that's
one thing, I can understand that. Oh, nevermind.
krj
response 16 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 22:43 UTC 2000

As far as I can tell, Yale decided it was not worth spending money 
to mount an iffy legal defense on behalf of its students ability to 
download free music.
Most universities and ISPs will probably cave the same way when 
Metallica or the RIAA get around to suing them.  
gelinas
response 17 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 23:27 UTC 2000

Indiana caved, too.
carla
response 18 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 23:42 UTC 2000

well if metallica wins the lawsuit, maybe Mr. Hammett can afford to pay out
some descent child support for his illegitamite child for once.
krj
response 19 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 16:27 UTC 2000

Dr. Dre has piled on, also suing Napster.  According to the story on 
www.cnet.com, Dr. Dre's legal papers say that he will name individual
Napster users in his suit at a later date.
carla
response 20 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 18:25 UTC 2000

see, that's just a crock.
brighn
response 21 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 18:48 UTC 2000

My $0.02 on the issue:
Putting copywritten songs on the internet is just like putting copywritten
stories on the internet. It's illegal, unless you own the copyright. I don't
understand the huzzah about one particular format, though... any practice that
involves illegally distributing illegal anything should be treated with the
same level of diligence.

But if Metallica and Dr Dre don't want their stuff distributed fro free on
the internet, they should be allowed to tell people to stop.
carson
response 22 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 19:14 UTC 2000

(Napster's defense, as I understand it, is that they simply provide
the technology to make sharing MP3s easy, and don't do any bootlegging
themselves. thus, suing them would make as much sense as suing the 
companies that built the computers used to make the MP3s, etc. I can't
say I disagree with the defense.)
brighn
response 23 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 19:56 UTC 2000

Actually, suing them would make as much sense as suing a photocopy shop for
not actively discouraging people from photocopying books. Which has happened.
And the copyshops have lost.

But yes, since carla explained to me what it is that Napster does, it does
seem a little more trite to go about suing them. 
mcnally
response 24 of 183: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 00:25 UTC 2000

  It's a little more complicated than that..  While it's true that Napster's
  just acts to make *any* recorded music easier to trade over the internet,
  and doesn't specifically differentiate between copyrighted and non-,
  Napster is certainly reaping huge windfalls from the piracy bonanza that's
  going on..  In fact, Napster would be just another lousy file-transfer
  service if it weren't for the massive amounts of pirated material that
  they help make accessible.

  So for them to claim that "we're just helping other people trade files,
  we don't tell them which ones to trade" is pretty disingenuous.  Other
  people's illegal activities are the core of their business..
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