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raven
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Intellectual property/ Copyright?
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Nov 19 00:29 UTC 1994 |
What is your take on intellectual property? Some people say that
copyright is dead with the high speed transfer of information. I tend
to agree, but it does make a little nervous as an aspiring multi-media
author.
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jg
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response 1 of 11:
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Nov 19 01:21 UTC 1994 |
Would you please explain the term a bit further?
Thanks!
-a student of multi media
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raven
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response 2 of 11:
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Nov 19 01:45 UTC 1994 |
Intellectual property is the idea that if information/art is copied,
say from a music cd, or cd rom that the original artist is owed a royalty,
or that the work can't be copied period. This also applies to scanning
of images, appropriation of video/movie footage which is problamatic
to me because I like to scan photos in old magazines and rework them
into art. I can't afford to pay copyright, and it seems a little silly
to me since the original image is drasticaly changed, and most of the
material is from the 40s.
Ofcourse saying copyright/intellectual property is dead is a two
edged sword, because it justifies "pirates" copying your art works and
not paying you for them.
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srw
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response 3 of 11:
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Nov 19 04:24 UTC 1994 |
Your question is a little unclear. What is my take? My take is that there is a
law against copying things freely without the right to do so. This law was
written before there were computers but is just as valid now.
All that has changed is that it is easier to violate this law, due to
technological advancements.
I think that this law is being enforced, admittedly spottily, and that
one should be careful not to violate a law just because one doesn't believe
in it, or doesn't think one will get caught.
Are you asking if I think that this law *should* exist?
That is a different question, but I will say that I do think so.
I make a living writing software, and I would have to find another
line of work if people could just copy my software freely instead of
having to license it. Why should they pay me anything?
The effect would be to limit the available software to that written by
people who can afford to write it for nothing. This would deprive many
people of the access to much good software.
Why not band together and buy some rock band's CD, then copy it to DAT
(digital audio tape) 5 zillion times, and share them among yourselves.
Well the answer is that if that were legal, Rock band's would limit
their efforts to live performances, because they couldn't make any money
off their CD's, so you would effectively have deprived many people of
the ability to hear them.
We need copyright laws. I don't feel the same way about software patents.
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doorknob
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response 4 of 11:
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Nov 21 18:40 UTC 1994 |
I admit this sounds a bit idealistic, but...
I think it all depends on why you are doing something...
I am a musician, and I make no claims to being "unpluged."
DAT and the Midi are the greatest boom to music since the advent of
sound. (NIN song Reptile, were the rComputer belch....
If it is art for art sake, then you shouldn't mind ppeople copying it. It is a
good habit to aknowledge that you took something, or elaborated on someone else
But no one cries foul if you play Mozart. It does become a different issue
when you are in it for the money, as most of us have to be. Ideologuy goes out
the window when you can't affoard dinner...
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jg
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response 5 of 11:
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Dec 5 23:10 UTC 1994 |
I just found a book you may be interested in. "Who Owns Information?" by Ann
Wells Branscomb. She deals with intellectual property among many other
technology issues.
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raven
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response 6 of 11:
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Dec 6 00:14 UTC 1994 |
Yeah i saw a review for that book in this months Wired. According
to the review she says we even own our names and should charge people
for the ussage thereof. She sounds like an intellectual property extremist
though ofcourse I haven't read the book. Well another one to add to my list
of thousands...
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nephi
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response 7 of 11:
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Dec 6 04:09 UTC 1994 |
Well... you can *use* my name, but you can't copy it! 8*)
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ashdown
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response 8 of 11:
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Dec 10 00:25 UTC 1994 |
Is there a way to enforce the laws.? The question about coping 1 tape or
CD and distribute it to thousands is a policy with The Gretefull Dead
They themselves do not do the coping but let their fans do. They go
beyond studio works and allow taping of their live shows which is where the ART
really is.
This has lowered their record sales, to some degree, but it has
allowed them to build a strong loyal following. Consider
this; Is there a way get get paid but indirectely?. i mean
Selling say software, is there any other market that could produce
revinues out side of the actual sale of the software. How about
Saturday mornig cartoons?
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raven
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response 9 of 11:
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Jul 1 04:40 UTC 1998 |
#8 Makes an excellent point about getting payed indirectly. It was the
conclusion John Perry Barlow of the EFF reached a while ago in WIRED
in an article called something like digital bottles. He claimed that
soon we won't be able to stop copying but that artists and software
authors will have to make money on premium services like tech support
(for software) and live performences for muscians etc.
I think Barlow is right we can't really stop copying just look at mpeg3
and what it will do for muscians who already are seeing there work
posted for dowload all over the web. Perhaps this can be stopped in
U.S. but the U.S. has soveiernty over foreign servers though the U.S.
government does try to strongarm countries like China into following
U.S. IP laws it's really a joke in terms of enforcement or even will
to follow our IP laws.
To some extent I think this is a good thing. Afterall copyright is a
fairly (couple hundred years old) recent invention of western civilizations
there is was no idea of copyright for troubadors or people performing
tradational ceramonies and this allows all people to share a tradation
and share information which IMO helps us all evolve our minds faster.
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ki0tchen
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response 10 of 11:
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Mar 20 05:10 UTC 1999 |
The copyright don't be applied to the artistic pieces.It's not a crime
read the laws....
(sorry 4 my english)
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hc
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response 11 of 11:
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Mar 20 16:28 UTC 1999 |
Actually, copyright laws are currently a big issue over here in the European
Union. There was an EC law that was either passed but not yet enforced, or
has yet to be passed, which would have eliminated any and all copying of
things like Web content. This was a major crisis for the major IPs over here,
because a large part of North American web content is cached on this side of
the pond to improve response rates, and keep the intercontinental connections
down to a dull roar.
Fortunately, the people who wrote the law ARE admitting that they may have
goofed a bit.
So I don't think that copyright is dead, but it certainly is taking a few body
blows at the moment. What you'd almost need is a series of new media formats
which incorporate digital signatures - when you buy an electronic opy of
something, the store gets you to sign that file, then they sign over top of
your signature, and that's the copy you get. This wouldn't prevent theft, but
if you're caught with a file that has clearly been signed as purchased by
someone else, then you're nicked, so to speak.
(I don't know if the above would work or not - I'm just sort of making it up
as I go along...)
hc
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