response 1 of 43:

Jul 15 21:32 UTC 1996

what sort of obnoxious stuff?
i mean, there's several levels of twittery:
swearing for the sake of swearing, SPAMming, thretening people who live 200+
miles away with physical violence, threatening to damage/bomb accounts,
generic hostility, homophoia/sexism/racism/religious attacks, threatening
people who live >200 miles away with physical violence...
I personally try to ignore or play with twits who can't do me or my account
any real harm, at least in Party.  (When I want a fight, I come to the Cfs.
=} )

response 3 of 43:

Jul 15 22:01 UTC 1996

Would you provide a sample, please, Valerie? The treatment depends upon
the symptoms.

response 5 of 43:

Jul 16 02:54 UTC 1996

        I was the one to report this "problem" person to popcorn. My only
concern is for the newbies coming into party and seeing this person swearing
like there is no tomorrow. We forget sometimes that there are younger people
on grex and most of the time they are in party. That is all that I was
concerned about. 

response 7 of 43:

Jul 16 03:36 UTC 1996

Re 4: *I'm* perfectly happy to ignore a twit, or better yet ask serious
questions about his twitting until he ends up confused.  But I'm not the one
who has to sit in party with this guy.  And it's pretty darn impossible to
train an endless supply of party users to all ignore the twit.

Re requests for examples:  This is a fairly random sample of the stuff this
users says in party.  These are the first 10 things he said this week in
party:

:  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH KIDDIES MISS ME?
:  LOOK MUTHA FUCKAZ I SAID DID YOU MISS ME!
: LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH HAHAHAHAHAHAH
: HEY FUCKS I AM TALKING!
:  AHHHHHRGG ! LOOK I WILL CUT YOU PEOPLE
: WELL GOOD FAGGOT!
:  I GOT TO SAY SUMTIN!
:  HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAH WICKED
: FUCK OFF CUNT
: I'LL SMACK DA HO

Usually if you wait these clowns out, they get bored, or realize how boring
they are to everyone else, and they go away.  In this particular case, this
particular twit is fairly tenacious.  He's on Grex on a daily basis, always
posting this type of stuff.

response 9 of 43:

Jul 16 03:50 UTC 1996

I would think it would be a whole lot easier to educate and
re-educate party users that the best solution is to completely
ignore twits than it would be to try to eliminate twits on Grex.

Twits thrive on attention.  Starve them.  

response 11 of 43:

Jul 16 07:43 UTC 1996

Start discussing his postings in a (heavy...) serious manner - not
in an amusing manner. Some barbs are appropriate. But in effect carry
on a serious and even-tempered psychological analysis of the material.
You should push him/it/her into such a fury that he/it/she might just
blow a fuse.

response 13 of 43:

Jul 16 13:15 UTC 1996

As with E-mail options, there are options in party that allow people to create
their own twit filters.  While it is easier to ignore someone when you have
a program that blocks out what they say, such programs have their downfalls
- one of which being slowing down getting into party.  
I really try to stay away from party, but in the rare events that I do go in
either no one is there - or at least one twit is.  I see that you've already
discussed filter files - and possibly their problems (I'm not going back to
read it again).  A lot of what is said here makes sense - Twits thrive on
attention, starve them - I have a cousin who thrives on being annoying, I
ignore him.

response 15 of 43:

Jul 16 15:48 UTC 1996

For my  part, Rane, I've tried every twit tactic I can think of,
based on what's worked in the past:  agreeing with him, sinking
to his level, ridiculing him, psychoanalyzing him, debating with his
statements in a serious and level-headed way, ignoring him,
offering to meet him, threatening to call the police... I've
done all of these long enough to see what the efects would be.
The only thing that seems to alter his mood is a prolonged period
of agreeing with him followed by a sudden reversal.  
j0ker666 likes to think he's god, so i worshipped him.  another
user after a while pointed out that god spelled backwards is dog
and that therefore user odye is god, so we all started a Cult of Odye.
j0ker666 became incredibly angry and insistent, very quickly.
Fascinating.
(I'm actually writing a book with a psychotic character much like
j0ker666, which is why i'm going to so much work to test reactions...
this is research for me.  =} )
Direct addressing will not work for a consistent amount of time.
All users should make a concerted effort to ignore him, but even
then, he and his two minions (yep, there's three of them now, all
direct dialers) sit and gloat amongst themselves that everyone
has filtered them...
Why can't we do what was done in the freekman case?
Is there no way to trace the calls?

response 17 of 43:

Jul 16 17:11 UTC 1996

Well, I still think the kick/ban concept for party (commented on 
elsewhere) would be a nontrivial 'patch', and should be channel-specific 
as well - let it sulk in the corner ;-)

As far as growing out of it... First it has to survive puberty, Janc... 
That possibility gets smaller every minute, and eventually someone is 
going to get hurt - I can recall a night that some "clues" were tossed 
out as to the location of 'it', and there were about 3 regulars all ready 
to drive over and beat 'it' to death. At the time, I cautioned against 
making a mistake, since 'it' was very quick to begin shouting what had 
been merely a clue before..

Either the moron is going to make an honest slip eventually, or someone 
is going to become a deliberate scapegoat - and there is going to be a 
major physical confrontation. Either way, someone is going to get hurt 
and hurt badly.. I can only hope it's the real twit and his attackers 
either get away and chill out, or hide the body well ;-/

This is a bad situation that calls for the 'political correctness' 
efforts of those that prefer to legislate 'civility' in dealing with 
tels, mail, talk and our foreign friends. I rather imagine those 
idealists will preach some more and wring their hands, but nothing will 
be done.

IAE, it's not my 'call' and with :ignore seemingly working like a champ, 
the only people that will get involved are those simple enough to 
continue baiting/taunting/talking with the twits.

response 19 of 43:

Jul 16 21:33 UTC 1996

I've been wrong before, but j0ker666 sounds more like an adult
(19 or so) who is, in fact, sociopathic.  This is as opposed to
other problems users, such as freekman, who was obviously much younger.
*shrug*  evil kown and mr manson, OTOH, sound like they're a few years
younger, and are acting this way because they think j0ker is cool and they
want to emulate him.  (Unless ryan's hypothesis that all three of them are
the same person is right, but I don't think it is...)

They'll get bored, or mnet will come back and they'll go home.

response 21 of 43:

Jul 16 21:45 UTC 1996

#20 was in response to #18.

response 23 of 43:

Jul 17 03:50 UTC 1996

Mary, they don't shut up no matter how much you do. they flood
party with garbage even if *especially if no one is sayin anything to them*
the caps and anme -calling don't bug me so much as the flooding. that
really bugs me and disturbs my convos in a way i cannot and will not deal
with.