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Grex > Coop8 > #64: Cyberspace Communications, Inc., finances through 4/30/96 |  |
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aruba
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Cyberspace Communications, Inc., finances through 4/30/96
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May 7 05:11 UTC 1996 |
Here is the treasurer's report on Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
finances through April 30th, 1996:
Beginning Balance $3,443.70
Credits $222.00 Member Contributions
$21.50 T-shirts
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$243.50 Total credits
Debits ($25.00) Dungeon Rent
($83.00) Electricity
($20.00) Innovative Concepts phone line
($249.94) Phone bill
($6.20) New checks
($8.08) Bank service charge
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($392.22) Total debits
Ending Balance $3,294.98
Our current balance breaks down as follows:
$3,234.98 General fund
$60.00 UPS fund
As you can see, we had a bad month in April. We were nearly $150 short of
covering our expenses. But we had a good February and a good March, so I
guess we were due.
Thanks to everyone who contributed in April:
aburek, bmoran, bruin, coyote, dadroc, eeyore, font, giry, hematite,
jlp, leann, matthew, null, shadow, and shepherd. Thanks!
Dues are still only $6/month or $60/year. Send cash, checks, or money orders
(payable to Cyberspace Communications) to:
Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
P.O. Box 4432
Ann Arbor, MI 48106-4432
If you pay by cash or money order, *PLEASE* include a photocopy of some form
of ID. I can't add you to the membership role unless I see some ID. If you
pay by personal check, that's good enough.
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davel
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response 1 of 134:
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May 7 10:55 UTC 1996 |
s/role/roll/
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aruba
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response 2 of 134:
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May 7 13:44 UTC 1996 |
Thanks Dave.
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davel
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response 3 of 134:
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May 7 17:15 UTC 1996 |
You're welcome.
8-{)}
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popcorn
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response 4 of 134:
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May 8 05:33 UTC 1996 |
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rcurl
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response 5 of 134:
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May 17 04:17 UTC 1996 |
s here is SCAN, and there is no man page for s. So, where do I look it up?
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aruba
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response 6 of 134:
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May 17 04:54 UTC 1996 |
I don't undrstand the question, Rane. Are you referring to #1?
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davel
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response 7 of 134:
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May 17 14:17 UTC 1996 |
Aha. I think so, Mark; Rane is probably determined not to learn vi or sed
or any of those things. Yes, Rane, that wasn't a Picospan command. Try
"man sed", though that may well send you somewhere else ... but you can think
of s-for-substitute & understand without going through all that, I think.
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rcurl
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response 8 of 134:
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May 17 14:58 UTC 1996 |
Sigh...I've learned a little vi, because its what usenet uses: a necessary
evil. But at least I now know its vi. I'm not *determined* - there is just
no painless way to do it.
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gregc
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response 9 of 134:
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May 17 15:56 UTC 1996 |
Rane, "Usenet" per se, doesn't use anything. "Usenet" is a distributed
database of articles. There are many programs to *access* usenet, like rn,
trn, tin, Pnews, Netscape, etc. Many of these news reader programs default
to vi as their editor, but that can ussually be changed by setting
your EDITOR environment varible.
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rcurl
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response 10 of 134:
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May 17 16:52 UTC 1996 |
You mean, I can relieve myself of vipain? Where is that editor variable -
in something like .readerrc? (I read usenet on a CAEN machine).
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krj
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response 11 of 134:
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May 17 21:38 UTC 1996 |
vi is the nectar of the gods. :-) Oh, goody, editor wars. :-)
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adbarr
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response 12 of 134:
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May 18 02:59 UTC 1996 |
Useful only to the Gods. Perhaps the "gods" are too "godlike" in their
own eyes? Are the vestments confortable?
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omni
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response 13 of 134:
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May 18 03:49 UTC 1996 |
I've been using vi ever since I started logging on to this thing. I like
it, and it's certainly easier to use than jove, which is the devils spawn of
edlin. <makes the sign of the cross with fingers>
vi rules!
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tsty
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response 14 of 134:
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May 18 06:13 UTC 1996 |
editor warzz - love it - vi or die!
really, it's NOT pain, rcurl ....
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gregc
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response 15 of 134:
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May 18 07:07 UTC 1996 |
Rane, telling me that you "read usenet on a CAEN machine" means nothing
to me. Is it a UNIX machine? Dos? VMS? Windows NT? OS/2?
If it's a UNIX machine what program do you run to read News? What shell
are you using? sh, csh, tcsh, bash, zsh, ksh?
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scg
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response 16 of 134:
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May 18 10:51 UTC 1996 |
As far as I know, CAEN machines tend to be Unix of some sort. EDITOR is an
environment variable. In some shells you can do:
setenv EDITOR pico
for example.
I resisted using vi for several years, before finally having to start using
it because I was doing some work on a Unix system that didn't have anything
else. It took a bit to learn (probably a lot more time than it would have
taken to go grab pico off an FTP site), but now that I know how to use it it's
much more efficient than any other editor I've found, so I rarely use anything
else.
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remmers
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response 17 of 134:
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May 18 11:58 UTC 1996 |
That was my experience also -- vi was a bit of a pain to learn
but well worth the trouble.
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scg
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response 18 of 134:
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May 18 12:07 UTC 1996 |
I think scott compared it to driving a stick shift at one point. The
comparison seems about right.
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aruba
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response 19 of 134:
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May 18 18:56 UTC 1996 |
While it's true that no one seems to have anything to say about Grex's
finances, I nevertheless think that editor wars belong elsewhere from the
tresurer's report item.
Doesn't anyone want to speculate on why we had such a bad month, what we can
do about it, etc.? Or has that been done to death?
We're not haveing a great May, either, I can tell you.
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janc
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May 18 22:39 UTC 1996 |
It looks like the auction might bring in a bit of money, but not anywhere near
enough to balance our budget, much less get us to a point where we can expand
the net connection. Bottom line is that we have too few people donating
money. I doubt if there is a system anywhere on the planet the serves more
people on less money than Grex does. We're stretched very, very thin. With
the likelihood of having to move soon, it's going to be all we can do to be
able to keep the system running. Upgrading our connectivity would take a
miracle.
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arthurp
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response 21 of 134:
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May 19 01:09 UTC 1996 |
I agree that we can't think about the net connection until we find a secure
location and get moved. I don't have any good ideas on how to get more
donations, though. I wonder how much effect paying in multiple month chunks
has on the appearance of a single month. I paid for a year back in January
or February, and that month looked pretty good, but that 'good' month has to
be spread over all these bad months. If large payments are the norm, then
we should be watching a running total as well as the monthly totals in order
to get a clearer picture.
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srw
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response 22 of 134:
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May 19 04:24 UTC 1996 |
My guess is that we could get more donations by taking some facility that we
offer for free and saying that you have to be a member to get it.
Of course, this is the opposite of the direction we've been moving, and is
likely to meet a lot of opposition.
Still, I think we have demonstrated that if you don't offer much of a carrot
to join, only a limited number of people will do so. The people who are paying
to run grex now, the current members, are the altruistic ones. They are
wonderful people. Should we get them some help by removing some facility from
the list of "free" services? I think a lot of less altruistic people would
help to support the system, then. I think this can be done without approaching
the behavior of a commercial service.
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popcorn
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response 23 of 134:
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May 19 14:27 UTC 1996 |
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omni
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response 24 of 134:
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May 19 16:52 UTC 1996 |
And that is the way I learned vi, Valerie's tutorial. And if someone like
me can learn it, anyone can. Thanks Valerie.
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