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davel
New conference proposals Mark Unseen   Feb 7 15:32 UTC 1996

This is where you should enter proposals for new conferences.

The normal procedure is this:  People kick around your suggestion for a
while - say, a week or two.  If the cfadms see that there's a lot of
interest, they'll normally email you to discuss a few details.  If they
don't, you can email cfadm to say *you're* still interested, and the
conference will be set up.

Obviously, there are no guarantees that anyone will ever join or read
your conference.  If this matters to you, you may want to gauge others'
interest before starting.  (We've had a very few people grouse along
the lines of "What's wrong with this system, anyway?  I set up this
neat conference, but it's been completely dead!".  Other
conferences have just quietly expired, to nobody's apparent dismay.)

Ideally, you should propose a name for the conference, give some idea
what it's intended to discuss or accomplish, and propose a fairwitness
or fairwitnesses - preferably with the agreement of those you propose.
470 responses total.
janc
response 1 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 15:55 UTC 1996

Name: garage (skunkworks?)

Fairwitness:  maybe me and another staff person

Purpose: 
    Public arena for technical discussions about Grex hardware and
    software.  Typical discussion items might include
        - Ideas for new features for "party"
        - Ideas for new utilities for Grex
        - Discussion of why Email from AOL has so many problems.
        - Heating/cooling of the dungeon
    This would not be a policy conference.  It's kind of a "what can we do
    and how can we do it" place rather than a "what should we do."  It would
    not (at least for now) replace the staff conference, though some
    discussions might would be moved from there.  It's supposed to be a
    meeting place for all those users, staff or not, interested in helping
    with the technical end, either by actually doing stuff, or just
    sharing expertize.
remmers
response 2 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 16:08 UTC 1996

I support that.

Dave's summary of the process in #0 is excellent. To add just a
bit--the length of time that people "kick around your suggestion"
is usually 5 days to a week. Then the conference is created if
one or more fairwitnesses have emerged. There have only been one
or two controversial proposals where the discussion has gone on
longer than that.
rcurl
response 3 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 18:37 UTC 1996

I think "shop" is a better name - where one does shoptalk. Garage is
where you store stuff you should throw out.
nephi
response 4 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 18:54 UTC 1996

It's his conference that he wants to create and maintain.  Let him call it
what he wants.  Shop may be more logical but Garage has a really nice ring
to it.  Besides, I'm sure it'll be aliased as Shop, too.  
mta
response 5 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 19:49 UTC 1996

Garage is also where you work on stuff ... like your car (hardware).  FWIW
ajax
response 6 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 20:02 UTC 1996

And given that Grex is comprised of equipment that most people 
*would* throw out....  ;-)  I like either name.  Neither describes
what it is without an additional description - I'd figure "garage"
was for discussing auto mechanics.  But once you know what it's
about, both make sense, and I think that's what matters.
janc
response 7 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 20:13 UTC 1996

I'm not married to "garage".  "shop" is OK.  I don't think this is "my"
conference to any degree, and I don't think my notion of what the name
should be should have any special weight.  I guess my view is influenced
by elder brother Klaus's garage, which might contain almost any project in
progress but hardly ever a car.  And a garage in Austin that was crammed
full of cars, some up on lifts, some parked under the ones on lifts, all
half taken apart amid a sea of loose tools and the occasion SureGrip calander.
But obviously different people have different garage associations.
steve
response 8 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 23:07 UTC 1996

   I think garage is kinda neat.  Ya never know what new and slightly
cluess items newcomers to that conference might enter before understanding
what its really about.  It should make for a good change of pace, if
nothing else.
carson
response 9 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 02:57 UTC 1996

plus, it doesn't conflict with the transportation conference!
rcurl
response 10 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 03:26 UTC 1996

...or with the consumers cf. Re #4: yes, its his cf, but *it says in
the login screen* "Your response counts  because you respond." Surely,
you don't mean that I shouldn't respond because it was someone else's
idea? Where is your sense of trying to reach a "rough consensus"?
popcorn
response 11 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 08:05 UTC 1996

Oh Rane.  Stop needling the fair witnesses!  :)
nephi
response 12 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 08:29 UTC 1996

You're right, Rane.  I was feeling rather grumpy there for a bit, and thought
you were telling him that he couldn't choose the name of his conference.  

Sleep . . . 
davel
response 13 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 11:20 UTC 1996

I'd go with Jan's alternate suggestion of "skunkworks".  (I was surprised
to learn that he's not an Al Capp fan, but got it secondhand.)
janc
response 14 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 17:07 UTC 1996

I was big on airplanes and space as a kid.  For me "skunkwords" means
Lockheed's lab, where such amazing creatures as the SR71 (aka YF12a) were
dreamed up.
tsty
response 15 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 17:29 UTC 1996

skunkworks could be an item in coop ... it would fit the picture ....
adbarr
response 16 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 00:55 UTC 1996

The Johnson conference?  I like that. People will attack the Skunkworks
because it was creative and worked. Both are immortal sins in business today.
nestene
response 17 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 09:31 UTC 1996

Naming it 'shop' might confuse people who were looking for either the
consumers' or the mallrats' conference.
steve
response 18 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:44 UTC 1996

   I wanna see it called "garage".  We could get some really interesting
car repair / systems administration items going.  The two may be more
closely related than we all think.
rcurl
response 19 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 21:40 UTC 1996

Yeah...I recall that car in your driveway.... ;->.
popcorn
response 20 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 08:21 UTC 1996

You can give it multiple names.  Picospan supports that.
tsty
response 21 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 14:39 UTC 1996

garage is cool, and prceptive.
gregc
response 22 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 10:00 UTC 1996

Interesting, when I hear the name "Skunkworks", I think of the same 
thing Janc described in #14, being a big space/aviation buff myself.
I have No-Clue what davel is describing in #13, other than I do know
who Al Capp was.
tsty
response 23 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 23:20 UTC 1996

political catoonist, extrordinaire. Predecessor to Doonsbury, et al.
gregc
response 24 of 470: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 23:50 UTC 1996

Yes, I said that I *do* know who Al Capp was.
What I didn't understand was the connection between Al Capp and the
term "skunkworks".
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