|
Grex > Coop7 > #89: Proposal for Grex to enroll in SBI list. | |
|
| Author |
Message |
rcurl
|
|
Proposal for Grex to enroll in SBI list.
| 
Aug 30 17:51 UTC 1995 |
The SBI ("Select BBSes on Internet") list is a guide to BBS systems
acessible by telnet...on the Internet, and is updated monthly. The list
appears in BBS Mgazine, Boardwatch and West Cost Online. It is now
available also at the web site http://dkeep.com/sbi.htm A bbs sysop must
enroll new bbses. I propose that Grex act to become enrolled in the SBI
list.
|
| 40 responses total. |
rcurl
|
|
response 1 of 40:
|
Aug 30 17:52 UTC 1995 |
Look at the web site and I think you will agree that Grex belongs
on the list.
|
steve
|
|
response 2 of 40:
|
Aug 31 03:49 UTC 1995 |
This sounds reasonable to me. This is the type of list I like
to see us on, as opposed to an internet provider list.
|
popcorn
|
|
response 3 of 40:
|
Aug 31 04:17 UTC 1995 |
Sounds good to me too.
|
srw
|
|
response 4 of 40:
|
Aug 31 04:35 UTC 1995 |
Me, too.
|
rcurl
|
|
response 5 of 40:
|
Aug 31 07:19 UTC 1995 |
Well then, one of you (or more) have to decide who is to play
"sysop", and fill out the web-page enrollment form :).
|
popcorn
|
|
response 6 of 40:
|
Aug 31 13:37 UTC 1995 |
Would you be willing to do it, Rane?
|
rcurl
|
|
response 7 of 40:
|
Aug 31 21:46 UTC 1995 |
I could give it a try. I didn't check on what "authorization" they
might seek.
|
lilmo
|
|
response 8 of 40:
|
Sep 1 02:03 UTC 1995 |
go for it, Rane !!! :-)
|
rcurl
|
|
response 9 of 40:
|
Sep 1 05:23 UTC 1995 |
I'll report back....
|
rcurl
|
|
response 10 of 40:
|
Sep 4 07:27 UTC 1995 |
The SBI List application is submitted, preferably, with a form-compatible
WEB browser, which I can do. Here is the information they will want. I'm
posting it all here, though there are only a couple of times on which I
would appreciate advice.
System Name: GREX
Tetnet: (host name and IP address) - cyberspace.org 152.160.30.1
Ftp: (host name or IP, anonymous ftp OK?) - same, no anonymous
Finger: (addresses for info / whoson) - ????????
WWW: (HTML address/page name) - http://www.cyberspace.org/
Sysop email (address(es) - up to 2) - ????????
Guest/New Login: (what do new signups or visitors login as) - newuser
Phone Access: (list phone number, up to 4) - 2400 baud 313-761-3000,
-761-3451; 9600 baud 313-5041, -761-8084
Location: (city, state, country) - Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Number of Nodes: (total nodes) - 1?
Pay: (y/n/opt) - opt
Type: (BBS software) - Picospan
Description: (enter up to 10 lines, no longer than 72 characters each)
If there exists a text that describes Grex in sufficient detail, I
would use that
|
robh
|
|
response 11 of 40:
|
Sep 4 10:08 UTC 1995 |
Should we put PicoSpan or Unix as the BBS system?
|
popcorn
|
|
response 12 of 40:
|
Sep 4 12:33 UTC 1995 |
How about:
finger: @cyberspace.org
(or who@cyberspace.org)
Sysop e-mail address: staff@cyberspace.org
For phone numbers, I'd suggest putting only -3000 and -5041, but not
the other two numbers.
For the description, you might find some applicable text in the
Grex faq (/usr/local/grexdoc/grex-faq).
It looks good, Rane. Thanks!
|
scg
|
|
response 13 of 40:
|
Sep 4 14:08 UTC 1995 |
I think nodes sometimes referrs to the number of phone lines a BBS has, so
our number of nodes might be 11?
|
rcurl
|
|
response 14 of 40:
|
Sep 4 17:37 UTC 1995 |
I put in the other phone numbers for the occasional bad line or modem.
Doesn't the group still hunt? What would be a reason for listing only two?
Other systems list things like BBSD for their BBS software, not their OS.
(I'd mention unix in the description.) I guess I'll use finger
who@cyberspace.org, since both yield a "whoson", and not much general
information. In regard to "nodes", I took that to be systems, like "grex".
I'll check on what others report and interpret that.
|
rcurl
|
|
response 15 of 40:
|
Sep 5 06:27 UTC 1995 |
I've looked at a lot of examples of BBS in the SBI List. There is quite
a range of amounts of information provided about each. Its a pretty
spotty list: a find on MI showed that some well known Michigan systems are
not listed (besides us), and a find on picospan found nothing. Most of the
bbs are .com and have fees. Anway, I've drafted a less-than-10-line
description of Grex, and here it is for your perusal and comment:
Grex is a public-access computer conferencing system owned by
Cyberspace Communications Inc. and supported by donations from users. All
staff members are volunteers. Users have access to electronic conferencing
using PicoSpan, internet e-mail, games, chat, party, a Web page, a Unix
shell account, and a C compiler, assembler, and other development tools.
Members, users that donate above a certain level, have access in addition
to outgoing Internet services such as telnet, FTP, Gopher, and http, and
may serve on the board and vote for board members. Some 80 Conferences
provide a wide range of topics for discussion and information sources.
|
popcorn
|
|
response 16 of 40:
|
Sep 5 11:55 UTC 1995 |
Re 15: Hm, that's quite good, but kind of dry. Would it be OK to stick in
something about "sense of community" or "on-line community" near the beginning,
or move the mention of conferences toward the top?
Re 14: The reason for listing only two phone lines is to leave more freedom
for Grex to reconfigure its phones for other uses. For example, the U of M
only publishes the number for the first line in each of their trunk hunts,
so that they can swap the other numbers out for other purposes, without
having the person who inherits the number bombarded by incoming modem-calls.
On the other hand, when the U of M has a bad modem early in their trunk
hunt, it can be really hard to get through to an OK modem if you don't have
other phone numbers available to dial around it. Also, the way it was
written looked kinda confusing: does 761-3000 -3451 mean that every single
number in that range belongs to Grex? (-3001, -3002, -3003, and so on?).
You'd need to know something about the numbers in the trunk hunt for that
particular notation to make sense.
I agree with your interpretation of "nodes": we have one main computer, so
that's one node. Is there an info person at SBI who we could ask for a
clarification?
|
rcurl
|
|
response 17 of 40:
|
Sep 5 21:31 UTC 1995 |
I think I can ask. After looking at other listings, I concluded that most
bbs are interpreting "nodes" as lines.
Well, yes it is kind of dry 8-? Sure, Valerie, liven it up and bit. There
is quite a mix of descriptions in the List. The dominant type is
"breathless excitement" about all the good things their bbs will do for
you, since most of the bbs are in it for the $$$$. I didn't want to go
that route.
|
lilmo
|
|
response 18 of 40:
|
Sep 5 21:34 UTC 1995 |
Re #15: How about striking "in addition" from the sentence about member; it
sounds abiguous to me... (er, ambiguous)
|
rcurl
|
|
response 19 of 40:
|
Sep 6 03:45 UTC 1995 |
Good idea!
|
scg
|
|
response 20 of 40:
|
Sep 6 04:21 UTC 1995 |
Also, some of the things you mentioned as membership benifits are things that
policy says should be open to non members.
|
rcurl
|
|
response 21 of 40:
|
Sep 6 18:27 UTC 1995 |
That raises the question of whether we should say what we do or what we
preach? 8^}. OK. Which "membership limitations" (i.e., limited to
members) should be listed at *this juncture*?
|
tsty
|
|
response 22 of 40:
|
Sep 7 08:49 UTC 1995 |
"You can telnet in and participate in conferences and shell Unix
work, but telnetting out necessitates 'membership'."
|
marcvh
|
|
response 23 of 40:
|
Sep 9 05:28 UTC 1995 |
"Grex Guest Hotel: guests telnet in, but they don't telnet out."
|
tsty
|
|
response 24 of 40:
|
Sep 9 08:54 UTC 1995 |
_Hotel Grexifornia_ ?
|