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lettermn
ryan1's account Mark Unseen   Jun 3 02:25 UTC 1995

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O.K.  This is really Ryan Antkowiak (more commonly knows an
ryan1@cyberspace.og)  I have entered this item to ask for my account back.  I
realize I have not behaved appropreatly all of the time on grex.  I miss
everyone on grex, (almost everyone.)

I would like to made a few points:

***I did not delete any of blob's files, i only provided avi access to blob's
account.  I had no idea of avi's intentions.
***I miss grex a lot.
***I won't mess with anyone on grex, (or anyone that has an account on grex)
except to defend myself.
***I promise to to put ansi codes in the pwho anymore that messed up people's
terminal settings.  [oopse, i meant to say i promise NOT to]
***I promise that steve wont' get anymore annoying email message of complaints
about me unless the user was being really petty, and complaining about nothing.
***I am running aout of things to say.

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like, do people want me back? do you think i should get my account back?  Cuz i
really want it back..

like, please say something...
70 responses total.
robh
response 1 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 02:29 UTC 1995

I'd like to see you back if you can stick to your word.  First,
though, I'd like to know what "defend" yourself means in your
third point.
lettermn
response 2 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 02:46 UTC 1995

Robh - It means that just because I keep on good behavior, doesn't mean
I hafta be a Shit-Magnet, or take all of other peoples' crap.
mju
response 3 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 03:36 UTC 1995

I think you'll find that if you treat people with respect, they
return the favor.
lettermn
response 4 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 04:01 UTC 1995

yeah.
tree
response 5 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 22:22 UTC 1995

Ryan rocks my world too.  And even though he likes Boyz ][ Men I'd like
to see him back here sometime in the future.  Has he not done what he
was supposed to do?  Perhaps we needa  big contreversy over Ryan
just like over avi.  or not.  
Ryan did what he did and done what he didn't so there.  
You rock my world Ryan
lettermn
response 6 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 00:09 UTC 1995

thanx ben.
espresso
response 7 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 01:41 UTC 1995

I would like to see ryan1 back in the near, very near future. Ok so he did one
thing wrong, what's he supposed to do to fix it? he did what he did and I'm
sure that if he could go back in time he'd make sure he didn't do it but he
can't. 

What I'm trying to say is that he did what he did and it's done, no one was
hurt or killed no one had emotional scares, everyone's fine but him, I say give
him a secound chance
lettermn
response 8 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 13:26 UTC 1995

like, are you gonna gimme my account back?
peacefrg
response 9 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 15:52 UTC 1995

Ryan is cool too. You have to give him his account back.
I'll miss him. Everybody screws up sometimes. I was never kicked off for my 
complaints. (Granted, they weren't as harsh, but still)
lettermn
response 10 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 16:48 UTC 1995

As harsh?  Well for one thing, I DID NOT DELETE ANY OF BLOB'S FILES.
I only did one thing, and that was make a small modification to one
of blob's files.
sidhe
response 11 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 02:12 UTC 1995

        I honestly see little that ryan1 DID, here. He and avi both agree
that ryan1 had no idea what avi would be up to, and merely provided access
to an account that someone else was stupid enough to fix ryan up with
access to.
        I move the charges before ryan1 be dismissed.
mju
response 12 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 03:41 UTC 1995

"Honest, officer, I had no idea what he was going to do.  All I
did was give him the gun and tell him where Jimmy lived..."
peacefrg
response 13 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 17:37 UTC 1995

Oh yeah. Very accurate situation for this offence.
I can see where is could be similar to murder.
please
curby
response 14 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 18:32 UTC 1995

Re #12:  <Grin>  mju, thanks.  I needed a laugh today!
lettermn
response 15 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 01:02 UTC 1995

like, we may be getting a little bit off the subject, (even tho peacefrg 
made a good point.)
sidhe
response 16 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 03:40 UTC 1995

        Marc, that is totally irrelevant, and does not address my issue
one iota. 
srw
response 17 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 06:53 UTC 1995

I don't think it is irrelevant in the slightest. It is poking fun at Ryan's
protestations. Ryan protests that he did nothing, but what he did was
to provide Avi with a weapon to use against another user. In fact Ryan
should not have had access to blob's account in the first place. Having
had it he should certainly not have given it to anyone else.

What was that little modification Ryan1 made? Perhaps a change to blob's
.login file to  create a new security hole so he could sneak back in 
any time he wanted to. Grex does not need this kind of mischief going 
on on its system. It sucks up staff time like mad. Is it blob's fault
that all this staff time is being spent on this? I would say not.
Rather I would lay the blame on Avi and Ryan, as they were the ones
hacking into someone else's account.

I would hope we could eliminate this mischief without eliminating the
mischief makers. That is the purpose of the discussion here.

If anyone thinks Grex is run like AOL in nearly any fashion, they must 
be strangely deluded. AOL is going to court against the account hackers
on its system. It has won fines and someone even got a jail term.
peacefrg
response 18 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 14:17 UTC 1995

If blob gave Ryan his account and passwd for some modification (and I have done
this for people. They freely give out passwords if you are going to help them)
then I don't even know if the two of them should be punished oir blob should
be severly beaten and given a helmet to wear. You never give out your password.
Even somebody like blob knows that. And he knew who avi and ryan were and that
tyhey were pissed at him, so he was just asking for trouble.
mju
response 19 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 14:56 UTC 1995

And a woman who goes around to bars in "bad neighborhoods" wearing 
revealing clothing is "asking to be raped", right?  Sorry, but I don't
subscribe to the "asking for trouble" defense.  There is no excuse
for breaking into someone's account, regardless of what they've done
to you.  If someone voluntarily gives you their password, you should
ignore it; if you're feeling nice, you should probably tell them that
they should never give out their password to others, and also tell
them to change it immediately.
rcurl
response 20 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 16:03 UTC 1995

I currently know the passwords for two other person's accounts. I was
given them because I've been helping them with setup, etc. One should
give and expect trust. (But then, we are talking about kids here, who
push and shove each other, and do other spiteful things.)
peacefrg
response 21 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 16:06 UTC 1995

Boy, you are big into these comparisons that are nothing alike arn't you.
Come on, if somebpody gives you their passwd just ignore it and tell them
to change it immediately. Sounds ike something I learned at Catholic School.

'If you find a million dollars in untraceable bills, and you know that you wil
never  get caught what do you do?"

ANSWER 'Yu turn them into the police and if they can't find who it belongs to,
then you give it all to orphanages because the money wasn't rightfully yours
in the first place.

"I'm from Earth. Nice to meet you"
peacefrg
response 22 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 16:07 UTC 1995

Whoops a response slipped ahead of me...
rcurl
response 23 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 16:16 UTC 1995

Yeah - I was starting to get indignant, and thinking of what I could
do to your account..   8-{.
davel
response 24 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 18:26 UTC 1995

Well, James, I'm sorry, but it seems to me that Marc's analogies are pretty
apt.  So, if you invite someone in & he ties you up & vandalizes your house
you have no one but yourself to blame, & you deserve what you got?  You
don't actually manage to say what's *wrong* with analogies like these; you
merely indicate that you don't care for the conclusion they point to.
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