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Minutes of the May 24, 1995 Board Meeting Mark Unseen   May 28 18:00 UTC 1995

Minutes of the Board Meeting of Cyberspace Communications Inc.
Held at 7 PM on May 24, 1995 at the Michigan Union Food Court 


I. The meeting was called to order at 7:11 PM. Those present were:

Valerie Mates <popcorn>, Rob Henderson <robh>,
John Remmers <remmers>, Mary Remmers <chelsea>, STeve Andre' <steve>,
Staci Andre' <sea>, Glenda Andre' <glenda>, Rane Curl <rcurl>,
Dan Romanchik <danr>, Connie Marker, Marc Unangst <mju>,
Steve Weiss <srw>, Richard Pirie <bruin>
 
Some of these participants listed here, including your secretary,
did not arrive until after the meeting had begun. The portion of 
these minutes covering the meeting before I arrived were taken 
by John Remmers. Thanks, John!



II. Treasurer's Report (danr)

Dan reported that this month was a bad month for donations. Only $275
was taken in.



III. 501(c)3 Committee Report (rcurl)

Rane reported that the corporate papers are spread around on his desk now.
He has asked danr for financial statement.



IV. Computer Rehabilitation Committee Report (rcurl)

Things are in TS's living room.



V. Publicity Committee Report

Misti was not present, so this report was deferred.



VI. Technical Committee Report (steve)

There were no large changes in the system. The biggest thing has been staff
cleaning up after little things like mailbombings. There have been about 8
incidents.

Marcus and Steve will put the 1.7GB disk from ajax online.

Technical staff has been in maintenance mode. The system is less stable
than a month ago. Steve is rebooting every two days, because the system
becomes unstable otherwise.

The staff will try the newer SCSI card again. They weren't able to boot
from it when they tried before.



VII. Verification Policy (steve)

Mailbombing incidents interfered. Steve will enter the policy online.



VIII. Adding nephi to staff.

Motion(remmers/popcorn) : 
To confirm the staff's recommendation of Michael O'Leary <nephi> to the 
staff mailing list and staff conference.

The motion passed 5-0-0 (scg and srw were absent)



IX. Landlord Report (popcorn)

The landlord applied for a use variance for Grex. The hearing will be June 27.

Nick has been giving leads on other locations in case we have to move.

The Electrician gave us basically good marks. We have to make minor changes.
The electrician thinks it will pass inspection if we do this. Power strips may
be a problem. (We're not sure.)

STeve talked to Nick today. Nick is more optimistic about zoning issues,
as there is other commercial use in the immediate vicinity.

STeve know a place that is available for $50/month. We are investigating it.



X. The Arbornet UPS offer (steve)

We're still investigating Arbornet's UPS. We have $200 in earmarked donations
to apply to the $250 that they're asking. Questions for us to resolve:
How big is it? What is its condition? It has been offered to us on loan to
see if we can use it. We should borrow it.



XI. JCC Sale on June 25 (remmers)

We discussed the JCC's rejection clause and decided whether to apply for a
table anyway.

Motion: (srw/danr) Authorize $30 to rent a table at the June 25 JCC sale.
Passed 5-0-1 (scg absent, popcorn abstained)



XII. New Business.

General concern was expressed about the treasurer's report. We're losing
people. A membership drive was suggested. No action taken.

The Remmerses requested being removed from the NIC record. Marc unangst
will update the NIC record.


XIII. Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned before 9PM.

--

Respectfully submitted,

Steve Weiss, Secretary (with help from John Remmers)
25 responses total.
ajax
response 1 of 25: Mark Unseen   May 28 18:30 UTC 1995

  What's a NIC record, mentioned in XII?
mju
response 2 of 25: Mark Unseen   May 28 18:56 UTC 1995

The NIC is the Network Information Center.  Every domain and IP
network connected to the Internet is registered in the InterNIC
(Internet NIC) WHOIS database.  Some of the information is
technical information needed for the proper functioning of
the Internet (such as the top-level DNS servers for a domain),
and some of the information is useful to humans (such as
names, addresses, and phone numbers of the contact people for
a domain).  If you're a member, you can see Grex's WHOIS
record by typing "whois -h rs.internic.net cyberspace.org".
(If you're doing this from the BBS or Menu shell, you'll have
to prefix it with a "!".  Membership is required because that
command queries the InterNIC WHOIS database over the Internet.)
mju
response 3 of 25: Mark Unseen   May 28 18:57 UTC 1995

(BTW, even though I have sent in the change request, it hasn't
been acted on yet.  So, we're still listed with the Remmers' 
address, and with me as the administrative and technical contact.
chelsea
response 4 of 25: Mark Unseen   May 29 10:12 UTC 1995

Thanks for seeing to the Marc.  I'll keep checking to make sure
your mail sees some action.
popcorn
response 5 of 25: Mark Unseen   May 29 14:03 UTC 1995

In item IX, the hearing will be June 22, not June 27th.  Also, the $50
a month place came from Nick, not STeve, although STeve is investigating it.

scg
response 6 of 25: Mark Unseen   May 29 15:18 UTC 1995

I'm glad to hear it will be the 22nd.  I'll be in town then, and won't on
the 27th.
srw
response 7 of 25: Mark Unseen   May 29 16:01 UTC 1995

Thank you for the correction in item IX. 
That was a matter of me misreading John's notes.
remmers
response 8 of 25: Mark Unseen   May 30 00:07 UTC 1995

Which was a consequence of John's sometimes defectively legible
handwriting, most likely.
gregc
response 9 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 00:11 UTC 1995

Could someone please explain about the "JCC's Rejection clause" business?
mju
response 10 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 03:26 UTC 1995

The application for a space at the JCC sale includes language to
the effect that the JCC can deny access to any vendor they
deem objectionable.  It also specificall states that vendors
selling "adult" merchandise (X-rated CD-ROM's, etc.) are not welcome.
I think John can probably enter the full text of the clause...
remmers
response 11 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 09:54 UTC 1995

The clause says:

        The JCC reserves the right to reject, in whole or in part,
        and at any time, any exhibit or person which in its opinion
        is objectionable to buyers, other exhibitors, or the JCC.
        No liabilities or damages whatsoever against the JCC or any
        of its representatives or members shall be incurred because
        of such rejection.  [boldface] "X-Rated" and "Adult" software
        may not be sold at the JCC sale.  Exhibitors will be asked
        to leave. [end boldface]

janc
response 12 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 01:13 UTC 1995

In other words, they want to have the right to chase away people selling
"Hitler didn't burn enough Jews" bumper stickers if they so chose.  If
I was them, I'd put in a clause reserving that right too, though I'd likely
not exercise it.  I don't see why that would concern us.
rcurl
response 13 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 05:44 UTC 1995

The clause in #11 is two clauses. The first is their automatic right
without saying, since they are a private group. The second establishes
a freedom-of-speech policy for their events.
chelsea
response 14 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 10:05 UTC 1995

Grex's NIC address was changed.  Thanks, Marc.
nephi
response 15 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 14:35 UTC 1995

("Grex's NIC address was changed.  Thanks, Marc."  Um, I have no idea what
this means.  Please explode the TLA for me?)
mju
response 16 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 20:40 UTC 1995

NIC = Network Information Center (at least in this context; it can
also mean Network Interface Card).  The InterNIC (Internet NIC)
maintains a database of all Internet domains, along with contact
information.  The InterNIC record for Grex's domain, cyberspace.org,
still listed the Remmers' home address as Grex's address, and
listed me as the administrative contact for the domain.  Since this
was resulting in the Remmers' receipt of unwanted mail, we decided
at a board meeting 2 (?) months ago to change Grex's registered
street address to be the Dungeon address.  I sent the mail to the
proper people at the NIC, and the change was made.

If you are a member, you can view Grex's NIC record by typing
"whois -h rs.internic.net cyberspace.org".
gregc
response 17 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 22:25 UTC 1995

And, of course, there's also the NOC. Which means "Network Operation Center".
nephi
response 18 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 08:51 UTC 1995

Boy, Marc!  You must have used TNT to explode that TLA!  

Thanks!
curby
response 19 of 25: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 09:44 UTC 1995

Two months to get it changed.  Not to bad for the internic...

Maybe once they start charging $25k a year to register a .COM domain,
they might be able to process things quicker...  :)

lilmo
response 20 of 25: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 06:27 UTC 1995

Did anyone else experience deja vu when reading #16?  It was almost
word-for-word #2.  With such a short item, one would think that it would
not be too much trouble to read earlier responses...  *sigh*
ajax
response 21 of 25: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 07:52 UTC 1995

And how!  By the way, what does NIC stand for, anyway??  <troll, troll....>
popcorn
response 22 of 25: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 11:49 UTC 1995

<poke poke poke poke poke>
tsty
response 23 of 25: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 16:55 UTC 1995

similar, but subtly different and worth thje reinforcement, imo.

nephi
response 24 of 25: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 06:38 UTC 1995

Some people just have the *worst* memories!  
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