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matts
Need Usenet Help Mark Unseen   May 25 01:20 UTC 1995

I am looking for somewhere i can join to where i can post usenet articles.
Does anyone have any ideas?
13 responses total.
robh
response 1 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 25 01:40 UTC 1995

Well, here's a brilliant idea, send mail to any of
the following addresses:

      group.name@news.demon.co.uk
      group.name@dispatch.demon.co.uk
      group.name@bull.com
      group.name@cass.ma02.bull.com
      group.name@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
      group.name@paris.ics.uci.edu
      group.name@news.alias.net
      group.name@crs4gw.crs4.it
      group.name@berlioz.crs4.it
      group.name.usenet@canaima.Berkeley.EDU
      group.name.usenet@hkucs92.air.org
      (For an updated list send e-mail to mg5n+remailers@andrew.cmu.edu)

I tried the Ohio State address and it didn't work, but maybe
they don't carry alt.current-events.net-abuse.  I sent
another one to bull.com and it hasn't bounced yet, so
I'm hoping.
jep
response 2 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 25 04:18 UTC 1995

        M-Net carries a large but not a complete newsfeed.  You must be a
patron ($15/month, $42/quarter, $150/year, or $300/year for a corporate
account) to read or post Usenet News.  Call M-Net at 996-4644m 8N1, any
speed up to 14.4K, or telnet to arbornet.org, and run 'newuser' to start
an account there.  Guest accounts are free.
kerouac
response 3 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 25 22:25 UTC 1995

  Why is membership in m-net so much more expensive than grex?  It looks
like its about three times as expensive as grex membership per year and
I dont know anyone who would say it is three times better?
ajax
response 4 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 25 22:53 UTC 1995

  I would say its newsfeed is at least three times better! :)  And its Internet
bandwidth will probably soon be more than three times faster.  Its CPU also
feels faster on average, though it's hard to quantify that.  Also, doesn't
M-Net offer varying degrees of membership, of which Patron is the priciest? 
davel
response 5 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 26 02:05 UTC 1995

There are definitely a lot of people who would say the ambience is 3 times
better on M-Net.  My taste runs the other way, but I'm pleased that those
who feel that way have a place they like.

As to pricing, I'd guess that much of it is (at the moment) a result of
decisions to put priority on the kind of things Rob mentioned.  Some of
it is surely a philosophical difference, but since this is the net
result of individual people's attitudes on both systems it's easy to
oversimplify that kind of thing.  Still, Grex has (from its inception,
I think) had a deliberate policy of keeping fundraising low-key and
pretty much voluntary - in a way that I don't think M-Net ever has.
It's hard for me to avoid thinking that this is a major factor.

(I was inclined to say "as far as possible voluntary", but there are
some here who think a lot more would be possible, as well as some who
think we go too far.)
jep
response 6 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 26 02:51 UTC 1995

        A patronship on M-Net is $15 because it's been that way for over 10
years, it works well for us, it helps us to support other projects, such
as the K-12 system and the recent hardware hands-on training class, and to
support expansion (we're adding 4 more 14.4K lines soon, which will bring
us up to 22, also Arbornet just forked over $3000 for 1000 manuals), and
our users are willing to pay that much.
        I think it should be higher, myself.  There are a lot of things I'd
like to do with some more money, such as get terminal servers, another
computer for Usenet News, a T1 Internet connection, advertising, more
phone lines -- a *lot* of phone lines, commercial Usenet News groups, a
paid staff person or two, library services, links to the government and
educational entities, additional hardware that we desperately need such as
a DAT tape drive, projects such as more classes.
        Urp. But this is the Grex coop conference, not the Arbornet policy
conference.  Anyway, we have Usenet News.
robh
response 7 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 26 03:28 UTC 1995

Back to the original topic - the article I mailed to the bull.com
address was posted in the newsgroup this evening when I read it.
So at least one of those works.  >8)
scg
response 8 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 26 03:45 UTC 1995

Increasing your patronship cost will not necessarily raise your revenues. 
It could just cut down on the number of patronships.
ajax
response 9 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 26 05:05 UTC 1995

  Yeah...for more money, M-Net should beef up the benefits...say, sell root
for $200 a month. :)  Back to the original topic, if you already have telnet
capability, you can telnet to io.com...for $10/month, they have a decent news
feed, posting capabilities, unlimited time, shell access, etc.  If Usenet is
your main interest, I think it's a slightly cheaper/better service than M-Net. 
peacefrg
response 10 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 31 00:08 UTC 1995

r
Whoops, You can go to havok.nether.net and post and read trn news.
Just login as newuser. Memberships are free and provide full
internet access. Get them before they close again.
Also, Watch those last 2 mail to usenet addresses. You have to put
groupname.usenet. That screwed me up because I didn't notice it.

example - alt.fan.barney.die.die.die.usenet@<such and such>
ajax
response 11 of 13: Mark Unseen   May 31 15:36 UTC 1995

  I get 'connection refused' from havok.nether.net, and if I telnet to just
nether.net, entering "newuser" at the login: prompt yields a password: prompt.
selena
response 12 of 13: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 05:03 UTC 1995

I got there, but upon typing in "newuser" it froze until the 60-second
telnet limit was up
peacefrg
response 13 of 13: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 15:27 UTC 1995

Hmmm, I dont know what to tell you. It worked for me.

Try havok.inferno.net
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