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Grex > Coop7 > #136: Cyberspace Communications Finances Through 11/30/95 |  |
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danr
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Cyberspace Communications Finances Through 11/30/95
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Dec 12 23:35 UTC 1995 |
Here is the treasurer's report on Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
finances through November 30, 1995.
General Fund
Beginning Balance $ 3754.76
Credits $ 402.00 membership dues
$ 4.00 t-shirts
Debits $- 108.00 Dungeon Rent, including $83 for
electricity
$- 20.00 Innovative Concepts phone line
$- 224.16 phone bill
$- 6.72 bank service charge
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Total $ 3801.88
Well, we tread water in November. Membership donations exceeded
expenses by a bit. I'm glad we had such a good October.
again. To date, I've only collected $120 this month.
I'll repeat what I said last month--Grex membership make great
gifts! And if you don't know any Grexers you want to give a
membership to, give one to yourself. You're worth it!
Dues are still only $6/month or $60/year (still CHEAP!). Send
cash, checks, or money orders to:
Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
2113 Arborview Boulevard
Ann Arbor, MI 48103
Thanks!
ps. If you are joining for the first time and you're paying by
cash or money order, please, please, please include a photocopy
of some piece of identification. I can't add you to the
membership rolls if I don't receive this i.d. Thanks!
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nephi
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response 1 of 26:
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Dec 13 08:44 UTC 1995 |
Agora 130 is now linked to Coop 136.
Enjoy!
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dpc
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response 2 of 26:
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Dec 14 18:59 UTC 1995 |
Thanx for this, danr! Very helpful.
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kungsm
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response 3 of 26:
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Dec 15 22:51 UTC 1995 |
It's illegal in Michigan to make a copy of your id.
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bruin
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response 4 of 26:
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Dec 16 00:19 UTC 1995 |
RE #3 Then my present employer violated the law, because I had to copy my ID
and my Social Security card in order to start my job.
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robh
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response 5 of 26:
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Dec 16 01:49 UTC 1995 |
As has every employer I've had in the last ten years. I'd love
to know where you heard that, kungsm.
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scg
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response 6 of 26:
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Dec 16 02:38 UTC 1995 |
I think it may be illegal to make a copy realistic enough to try to use it
as real ID. I don't think there's anything illegal about making a copy to
have on file, as long as it doesn't get represented as the real thing. Then
again, there are a lot of strange and unenforced laws out there.
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jerryr
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response 7 of 26:
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Dec 16 14:17 UTC 1995 |
kinkos will not photocopy your license for you. never seen anyone
prevented from using the self-service machines tho'. they claim that
the picture on the license belongs to <copywrited?> the state of
michigan and that they need the state's written permission to copy
it. that's what the clerks will tell you in any event.
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mdw
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response 8 of 26:
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Dec 16 14:32 UTC 1995 |
If I remember right, the state (or at least the feds) can't copyright
anything. Basically, anything they "publish" can be FOIA'd, and
anything that can be FOIA'd can be published. Some documents are
protected - but not by copyright. Some things count as national
security, or private records, and are protected as such. Currency is
obviously protected. Seals and ID may well have special protection, but
it certainly won't be copyright.
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f3963966
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response 9 of 26:
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Dec 16 16:49 UTC 1995 |
I just got my new id card (renewed), and Secretary of State wrote a note
on the letter :
It is punishable by state law to copy, print or photograph this card without
lawful authority.
Well, ?
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steve
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response 10 of 26:
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Dec 16 17:08 UTC 1995 |
"Lawful authority" means that you are copying it for a lawful reason.
Not that you can't copy it period.
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davel
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response 11 of 26:
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Dec 16 23:02 UTC 1995 |
I don't think so, STeve.
OTOH, it's really unlikely that you'd actually incur any punishment for
making something like a file copy, even should this come to the authorities'
attention (already pretty unlikely).
What state was this in, if I might ask? I recently renewed my driver's
license, & don't recall anything like that.
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rcurl
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response 12 of 26:
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Dec 17 00:00 UTC 1995 |
Bureaucrats like to have laws like that, but they are seldom applied
and almost never tested for their constitutionality. The purpose, of
course, is to put barriers in the way of forgery, but the criminal act
is *using* the forgery, not having it. I can forge people's signatures,
which I do as a demonstration, but its certainly not illegal until I
put it to criminal use.
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bruin
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response 13 of 26:
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Dec 17 02:26 UTC 1995 |
Also, if you've performed any sexual act other than genital intercourse with
your married spouse (and in the missionary position, no doubt), you are guilty
of a crime (although the prisons are overcrowded enough without including
fornicators and such).
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drew
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response 14 of 26:
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Dec 17 17:25 UTC 1995 |
According to the handbooks that they gave out at CapriCon, ConFusion,
ConTraption, etc., the only legal requirement for sex was a partner at least
16 years old and of the same species.
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scg
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response 15 of 26:
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Dec 17 17:40 UTC 1995 |
I think that, and that the partner concents, are the only enforced
requirements, and probably the only requirements that would actually hold up
in court. In my high school law class, as an example of the sorts of laws
that are out there that nobody has enforced in decades, the teacher read the
class a Michigan law, still on the books, prohibiting "any person or woman"
from "ludely and laciviously cohabitating with any other person or woman" or
something to that effect.
Anyway, back to Grex finances...
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danr
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response 16 of 26:
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Dec 17 21:11 UTC 1995 |
Why? This conversation is much more fun than Cyberspace finances.
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mta
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response 17 of 26:
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Dec 19 22:12 UTC 1995 |
"person or woman", eh? *sigh*
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shepherd
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response 18 of 26:
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Dec 21 16:07 UTC 1995 |
Re 14: They needed a handbook?
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sidhe
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response 19 of 26:
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Dec 25 02:49 UTC 1995 |
As a Kinko's co-worker, I cannot copy any legal documentation in
COLOR. Black-and-White is perfectly acceptable, and not uncommon. The
reason for the Color restriction is because it violates forgery laws.
Same with cash register recipts, birth certificates, diplomas, tickets
that are for an upcoming event, etc..
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popcorn
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response 20 of 26:
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Dec 25 13:40 UTC 1995 |
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arthurp
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response 21 of 26:
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Jan 7 22:46 UTC 1996 |
I just figured the purple ink was cheaper. It sure is of poorer quality.
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mcpoz
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response 22 of 26:
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Jan 7 23:30 UTC 1996 |
Maybe it has something to do with grocery store receipts - possible contact
with food (ie: food grade dye - like they put on meat) ? ? ?
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popcorn
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response 23 of 26:
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Jan 8 13:31 UTC 1996 |
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adbarr
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response 24 of 26:
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Jan 8 22:09 UTC 1996 |
And I am charged with "drift"! Speaking of the moons of Jupiter . . .
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