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Minutes of the October 25, 1995 Board Meeting Mark Unseen   Oct 29 06:14 UTC 1995

Minutes of the Board Meeting of Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
October 25, held in the board room of the Industrial Technology Institute
(ITI) On Hubbard Road in Ann Arbor

a. Gavel

The meeting was called to order at 7:20 PM bye Valerie Mates, President.

In attendance:
Valerie Mates (popcorn), President,
Steve Weiss (srw), Secretary,
Dan Romanchik (danr) Treasurer,
John Remmers (remmers),
Steve Gibbard (scg),
STeve Andre' (steve),

Absent: Rane Curl (rcurl)

Others present: Rob Argy (ajax), Jan Wolter (janc), Dave Lovelace (davel),
Scott Helmke (scott), Mark Conger (aruba), T.S. Taylor (tsty), 
Misti Anslin (mta).

b. Treasurer's Report

Danr reported that we had a lot of new members, and that we collected
over $1000 this month. He also reported that he had sent the financial report
to Rane for the 501(c)(3) application. 

For the year as a whole, it appears that our donations may be a little
less than last year.

c. 501(c)(3) Committee Report

In Rane's absence, none was given.

d. Computer Rehabilitation Committee Report

In Rane's absence, none was given, but someone pointed out that Eric
Bassey has computers to donate. He needs to be put in touch with Rane.

e. Publicity Committee Report

Misti had not arrived yet, so this was postponed.

Ajax passed around some of the latest fliers that Misti had produced.

f. Technical Committee Report.

 f1. Memory Hunt - STeve reported that it has gotten a little harder to
 find memory. We can still find some, though, in the $300 to $350 range
 for 32MB. Higher end Sun stuff is coming down in price, it is mainly
 that our principle source is out of stick to sell.
 
 f2. ttyh4 - The modem ready light won't come on. The line is busied out
 until this can be dealt with. Staff plans to reprogram the modem
 in the hope that it will resume functioning correctly. If this works,
 then we will be back in business. If not we will need to replace it.
 
 Scott suggested that turning the modem off at the power strip may be
 a hazard.
 
 f3. Security - There have been no break-ins. There has been some illicit
 usage in the form of pirated software (called 'warez' in internet jargon).
 Staff is coordinating with other internet system administrators.
 [Security details are omitted in the meeting minutes.]
 
 f4. Sun-4 - Marcus compiled much of the software that he has been working
 on for this project. STeve guesses that he is about 60% done. He was
 blocked mostly by the fact that the Sun Security Patches had not yet
 been applied.
 
 Later, greg installed the Sun patches. He ran into a problem and had
 to remove one patch, but it is a very important one that we need.
 He (and others) are investigating to resolve the problem that forced the
 removal of that patch.
 
 Quite a bit of the random software needed has been recompiled, but
 there is still a great deal of this which needs to be done. Srw
 has compiled a list of still-missing linked programs, and he and others
 will be recompiling and in some cases updating these programs.
 
 The Kernel Blocks have not been tackled yet. A subgroup of the staffers
 plan to meet to decide how these will be written. The date for this
 has not been set yet.
 
 STeve and srw expressed the wish to move the Sun-4 to the dungeon
 as soon as staff is substantially finished moving software to it.
 Until then it is best to stay put, where it can get a faster connection
 to the internet because it doesn't have to compete with Grex's production
 traffic.
 
e. Publicity Committee Report (rescheduled from earlier)
 
Misti announced that the 20 page booklet is ready to go. The cover is
in full color. The costs of producing it are $1/booklet.
 
g. Newsletter Report.
 
We decided on the format - 2 sheets.
 
Remmers has set up the vote program.
 
Srw said that if the web version of the newsletter wanted graphics,
that HVCN would host the web site for Grex at no charge, since Grex
was a non-profit organization.
 
MOTION: (steve,scg) The board supports the concept of a paper edition
of the newsletter and authorizes an initial budget of $50 to spend
as the editors see fit on the paper edition.    (PASSED 6-0)

h. Grex Manual - Danr announced that he had nothing to report.
 
i. New Business.

 i1. Misti advised popcorn to talk to Bob Tait about the ITI doors
 which were not left unlocked as they should have been. Some people
 had to wait outside, or were unable to get in to attend.
 
 i2. STeve indicated that even though the ttyh4 modem might be revived,
 we need to have a spare, live backup modem, so that we don't incur
 downtime whenever a modem fails while waiting for board action.
 
 MOTION (steve,popcorn) To Authorize staff to spend up to $125 to
 buy a new GVC V.32bis modem.            (PASSED 6-0)
 
 i3. Steve described an ICnet failure mode - the line we called in
 on disappeared. We changed over to dialing ICnet's main line. This hasn't
 caused any real problems, so far, but it could. Steve recommended
 that we work with ICnet to restore a dedicated line there to call in
 on.  This amounts to putting the line there into our name. At the current
 time Ameritech is waiving the installation fee, so there is no setup
 charge from them for this.
 
 MOTION (steve,remmers) Authorize danr to deal with Ameritech to install a
 phone line at ICnet's new Hubbard Road location in our name for the
 internet link.                      (PASSED 6-0)
 
 i4. STeve pointed out that our Hayes modem still has the old ROMs in
 it which are less noise tolerant.
 
 MOTION (steve,popcorn) Authorize up to $60 to buy the upgrade ROM for
 our internet link modem.    (PASSED 5-0 with remmers abstaining)
 
 i5. Valerie announced that Arnold Barr had handed her the Michigan Attorney
 General's opinion on whether minors can serve on the board. The opinion
 was that they could not serve.
 
 i6. Valerie announced that she had dungeon keys for the new roots.
 They were to meet with her afterwards to pick them up.
 
 i7. Valerie announced that she had brought in copies of the information 
 sheets that she had obtained regarding trade marks and service marks.
 She handed out some copies to interested attendees.
 
 i8. Valerie expressed interest in discussing the question of reserving the
 ID of a Grex user in the case of death. This followed a discussion
 which was ongoing in coop, but which did not seem to be approaching a
 consensus.
 
 Srw proposed a policy, but before there was any discussion, remmers
 raised the objection that since the topic had not been mentioned
 on the agenda, there might be interested parties who would like to
 attend. 
 
 In light of this we agreed to table this discussion until next month.
 
 i9. Tsty showed his "Mug" which was a coffee mug with a photographic
 image of his face (mug), and email address. He suggested that he
 could make these for Grex as a fundraiser.  Discussion of this
 possibility is to move on-line, and staff took no action at this time.
 
 i10. Srw discussed briefly the ongoing efforts to secure a faster internet
 connection. This included the question of initiating ISDN without incurring
 per-minute charges. Srw had heard that the Centrex strategy for this
 was being phased out by a new tariff. This was not confirmed, but
 Danr said he would talk to Ameritech.
 
 Rob Argy said that it was possible to make a data call as "voice"
 and get only 56Kb instead of 64Kb, thus averting the dreaded per-minute
 charges. He also pointed out that this may change in the future.
 
 i11. There was a brief discussion of the Magic Show "No Rabbits"
 fundraiser for Grex. No conclusions were arrived at, and discussion will
 continue online.
 
j. Gavel

The meeting was adjourned at 9:03 PM

Respectfully submitted,

Steve Weiss, Secretary
21 responses total.
robh
response 1 of 21: Mark Unseen   Oct 29 11:57 UTC 1995

Re agenda item f1 - I assume the person is out of "stock"
to sell, not "stick"?  Or is this some computer term I've
never heard before?  Dating back to when messages were
written on sticks, no doubt...  >8)
adbarr
response 2 of 21: Mark Unseen   Oct 29 12:24 UTC 1995

Sticks were an early version of the post-it note. You carved your
message on a thin limb, then hit the recipient on the head with the
stick so he or she would not forget the message. A bundle of sticks
comprised a "book". Some were better than others.
dpc
response 3 of 21: Mark Unseen   Oct 29 20:32 UTC 1995

How many dollars are in the bank?  Could this important figure be
routinely included in the minutes?  Thanx!
ajax
response 4 of 21: Mark Unseen   Oct 29 21:59 UTC 1995

Good idea, minutizing Grex's balance...logical part of the treasurer's
report.  I'd also be curious to see the outstanding authorizations (not
yet spent) and expenses (not yet reimbursed)...those nickles and dimes
can add up!  Are they tracked, other than in minutes?
srw
response 5 of 21: Mark Unseen   Oct 31 05:24 UTC 1995

No dollar figure was given at the meeting, so I couldn't put any in the
minutes. It's a good idea, though. Didn't Danr post these figures
on line somewhere?

Regarding stick versus stock: Everything is spelled correctly in these
minutes. My spell checker tolled me sew.  :-)
tsty
response 6 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 1 06:08 UTC 1995

<<i thought it was your spill chequer toiled ewe that>>
lilmo
response 7 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 03:38 UTC 1995

In i9, perhaps it should read that "the board took no action", rather than
"staff took no action"??
danr
response 8 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 18:58 UTC 1995

I post all the minutiae of the finances, except for outstanding authorizations
each month in Agora.  They used to  be routinely linked to coop, but I don't
know if that's done anymore.
dpc
response 9 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 19:50 UTC 1995

Apparently not.   8-)
srw
response 10 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 07:23 UTC 1995

Thanks for the correction to i9 in #7. You are right, of course.
lilmo
response 11 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 01:52 UTC 1995

No problem.  It's b/c I see that sort of thing that I edit copy so well.
sidhe
response 12 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 04:55 UTC 1995

        I would very much appreciate it if someone would please link
danr's reports here, thank you!
lilmo
response 13 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 03:48 UTC 1995

It has been done.
ajax
response 14 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 00:13 UTC 1995

  I've been meaning to mention follow-up to the equipment offered by
Eric Bassey (login other) from the Performance Network.  I picked the
stuff up a couple weeks ago.  Four PCs, five monitors, no full systems
(most lacked a video card, all lacked hard drives), and other assorted
things (printers w/o ribbons, modems w/o power adapters) (see
/u/ajax/perfnet for a full inventory).  Definitely better for JCC than
Computer Rehab.
 
  Also: is anybody dying to fill up some empty space in their living
quarters for a couple months?  Steve Sarrica will probably be mailing
us some more equipment for the JCC sale, and my apartment is starting
to bulge at the rafters, though I'll store it if nobody else offers.
lilmo
response 15 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 18:04 UTC 1995

I've got plenty of room, but transportation would be a problem. :-)
popcorn
response 16 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 21:50 UTC 1995

Once I'm all the way unpacked I'll know if I have some space for JCC things.
I think it's likely.  Though getting things in and out of my apartment is a
pain.
scg
response 17 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 07:14 UTC 1995

Once I'm moved into my new apartment I'll know if I have space.  I think I
might.
ajax
response 18 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 15:16 UTC 1995

  Steve Sarrica said he shipped some things to my address a couple days
ago.  Will update when I know their size, although by the time I get
them up into my apartment, I may be less inclined to move them than
to let them absorb space.
 
  Was also thinking: in preparation for the next JCC sale, perhaps we
should seek equipment donations in a motd a month or three in advance?
I bet several users have some old equipment they'd part with, but don't
know about Grex's fundraising efforts.  If we did solicit more donations,
extra volunteer space would be important.
 
  (Suggestion to scg: move into a 3-bedroom apartment, so we can store
JCC hardware and software in separate rooms!  :-).
popcorn
response 19 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 05:04 UTC 1995

Ja, once upon a time we used to put a JCC message in the motd about a month
in advance.  Lately nobody's been that organized....
tsty
response 20 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 07:00 UTC 1995

(addemdum to suggestion to scg: move into a 3-bedroom apartment so YOU can
store all the junk YOU will be collecting .....<g> .... and so can Grex)
scg
response 21 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 03:29 UTC 1995

That would be a lot of storage space, but I'd need some help from Grex to pay
the rent on something that big. ;)
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