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remmers
Nominations for the Cyberspace Board of Directors, Take 2 Mark Unseen   Oct 23 09:35 UTC 1995

The first board nominations item (112) seems to have become
acutely overrun with tangential discussion, so here's another
to replace it. Please make any new board nominations here. Or,
if you really want to enter a nomination in item 112, I'll
copy it over here, if I can find it. :)

Nominees so far:

        Scott Helmke (scott)
        Christopher Cloyd (sidhe)
        Rob Henderson (robh)
        Anne Perry (anne)
        Misti Anslin (mta)
        Rane Curl (rcurl)
        Audrey Bricker (headdoc)

In addition, Mark Conger (aruba) has been nominated but has
not yet publicly accepted or declined.

Nominations are open through November 15.
89 responses total.
rcurl
response 1 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 15:17 UTC 1995

Will a "statements" item/file be created? If so, it should be up and
running on November 15. 
popcorn
response 2 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 16:44 UTC 1995

Rob was talking about maybe doing another survey, like he did last year.
remmers
response 3 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 16:47 UTC 1995

(I've revived Item 18 to discuss changes to the vote program,
such as the one Rane suggests in #1.)
tsty
response 4 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 17:59 UTC 1995

does rob have the answers from last year? If so, wehre might they be found?
ajax
response 5 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 18:09 UTC 1995

They'd be in the previous co-op conference (join oldcoop), in an item
titled something like "candidate survey."  I'll put together another
one and mail it out after the nomination period ends (11/15?).
sidhe
response 6 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 18:20 UTC 1995

        That would be handy..
aruba
response 7 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 01:59 UTC 1995

I accept my nomination.  I am pleased to be in such good company.  :)
remmers
response 8 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 11:04 UTC 1995

Nominees thus far:

         Scott Helmke (scott)
         Christopher Cloyd (sidhe)
         Rob Henderson (robh)
         Anne Perry (anne)
         Misti Anslin (mta)
         Rane Curl (rcurl)
         Audrey Bricker (headdoc)
         Mark Conger (aruba)

(I think this is the second longest slate of candidates on
record, the largest having been the very first board election,
when we had to choose all seven directors at once.)
popcorn
response 9 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 13:16 UTC 1995

And, as always, we've got more fantastic candidates than we have open slots.
Grex is the only organization I've ever heard of that ever has this problem.
remmers
response 10 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 17:15 UTC 1995

<remmers notes that "fantastic" has several possible meanings>  :)
kerouac
response 11 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 20:53 UTC 1995

  Wouldnt it seem logical that since grex has grown, presumably 
a great deal, since the board was first formed, that maybe the
board should now be larger.  Why not add a few more slots and let
all or most of these folks serve.  Dont see what it could hurt.
Unless of course the bylaws are sacred and cant be amended, which
I'm not too sure might be the case! :)  
steve
response 12 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 23:38 UTC 1995

   Would it really help the system?  I've thought about that a
few times, thinking back to other organizations I've been a part
of that had lots of people on its boards.  The group that had 11
found it too unweildy ultimately, so they scaled things back to
seven.

   I think thats a good number, because if a member wants to
talk to someone about getting something done, they can probably
do it and at least catch the ear of one of those seven.

   With more board types things like quorums start getting
harder to acheive.  As it is right now, we've had probably
6 board meetings in our history that wern't board meetings
because people wernn't there.  I think that this would happen
more often with more folks.

   But my main concern is, how would it help Grex?
popcorn
response 13 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 05:48 UTC 1995

Re 10: Ok, let me rephrase #9:
And, as always, we've got more excellent candidates than we have open
slots.  Grex is the only organization I've ever heard of that ever has 
this problem.
ajax
response 14 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 08:28 UTC 1995

  I dunno the ideal number, but seven seems pretty good, and I do prefer
having more candidates than slots to fill, to allow some selection.
remmers
response 15 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 13:03 UTC 1995

<remmers wonders, re #11 and #12, whether the SECOND item
 he entered on board nominations is also going to succumb
 to drift>
tsty
response 16 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 19:44 UTC 1995

fwiw - seven is an almost perfect number for small group decision 
making, according to a college class i got a B in. The range is 5-9.
scott
response 17 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 19:51 UTC 1995

Seven even seems like a lot... even if we had 200 members, that's more than
3% of the membership on the board of directors.
steve
response 18 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 20:00 UTC 1995

   Heh.  Think what it would be like with 11.
dpc
response 19 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 29 20:27 UTC 1995

I think it should stay at 7.  If you get many more than that,
sub-groups form at either end of the table and you don't have
as much focussed discussion.  The immortal C. Northcote Parkinson
showed this.  Really.
tsty
response 20 of 89: Mark Unseen   Oct 30 05:55 UTC 1995

heh - if i had remembered that, i woulda earned an A ...... (sigh).
rcurl
response 21 of 89: Mark Unseen   Nov 1 08:26 UTC 1995

The desirable size of the board also depends on whether the organization
has a participatory board or an institutional board, or something
in between. The former, which most organizations begin with, have the
"doers" on the board. In the latter, which organizations evolve toward
as they get bigger, the "doers" are the officers and committee chairs,
and the board consists of people than can find support for the
organization. This is just theory now, but to the extent that board
members can find or develop *support* for the organization, more board
members mean more support (until they start colliding with each other :>).
tsty
response 22 of 89: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 07:41 UTC 1995

nevr let it be said that Grex is institutionalized .....
sidhe
response 23 of 89: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 16:16 UTC 1995

        I think 9 would be nice, but this mostly due to the bias present
from my being nominated, so don't take the idea too seriously..
lilmo
response 24 of 89: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 03:25 UTC 1995

When do nominations close?
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