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danr
Grex Finances Through 12/31/1994 Mark Unseen   Jan 8 15:32 UTC 1995

Here is the treasurer's report on Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
finances through December 31, 1994.

General Fund
    Beginning Balance   $4259.39
    Credits             $ 394.00  membership dues
                        $  65.50  t-shirt, mug income
    Debits              $-197.00  CE payment
                        $- 25.00  Dungeon rent
                        $- 20.00  Innovative Concepts phone line
                        $-200.00  reimburse Greg Cronau for ALM
                                  II board
                        $- 25.00  Accounting Aid Society membership
                        $-  5.29  rubber stamp
                        $-  0.00  bank service charge
                        --------
    Total               $4246.60

Overall, December was a mediocre month.  Donations were a little
below average, but December is historically a slow month.

If you would like to help make 1995 anything but mediocre, you
can contribute to Grex and become a member. Send cash, checks, or
money orders to:

    Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
    2113 Arborview Boulevard
    Ann Arbor, MI 48103

Thanks!

ps. For folks outside the US, I've figured out how you can have
your bank wire us money.  For details, send me email.
21 responses total.
chelsea
response 1 of 21: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 14:19 UTC 1995

This item has been linked to Co-op.
lilmo
response 2 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 01:43 UTC 1995

>  can contribute to Grex and become a member. Send cash, checks, or
                                                   ^^^^^^
No offense, danr, but anytime someone encourages sending cash in the mail, I
get the heebee-jeebees, and wonder about the integrity of said person.  :-(
scg
response 3 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 02:38 UTC 1995

For those of us without checking accounts, sending cash works quite well. 
Yes, I suppose it could get lost, but I haven't had that happen.  I've
sent cash to Dan a few times and it's worked, although I've handed him
cash in person the last couple of times I've renewed my membership.
danr
response 4 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 03:04 UTC 1995

re #2:  Many people find it convenient to send in cash instead of
finding a place to buy a money order.  In the three years, I've been
treasurer, many people have sent in cash, and there have been no
complaints about missing funds during that time.

When you're ready to become a members, you can send in a check or money
order.
steve
response 5 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 03:33 UTC 1995

   The amount of cash in the mails has increased, due in part to the rising
number of people without bank accounts.
   But I'd still suggest that people use money orders rather than cash
if at all possible.
scg
response 6 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 06:20 UTC 1995

Somehow, a money order seemed like more trouble than it was worth for $6.
rcurl
response 7 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 06:35 UTC 1995

I think the fear of sending cash is highly exaggerated. You take your
chances, but how often does mail not get to its destination, or
be returned? (Assuming addressing is correct!). Also, if you do send
a check, and it doesn't arrive, you have to pay a lot to stop it. 
ajax
response 8 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 07:17 UTC 1995

I recently read an article about a cosmetics company that offered a free
trial package for a buck or two.  Most people sent cash even though the
company asked them not to.  Their local postal carrier realized this, and
since the company got a *lot* of mail, made a small fortune swiping a large
chunk of their mail.  The customers thought the company ripped them off, and
even after the company discovered the problem, it took a long time for the
USPS to react.  This was another Chicago postal service horror story, but I
think that's not too uncommon if an address takes in a lot of cash.  Of
course, this is not yet a problem for Grex.
danr
response 9 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 18:03 UTC 1995

I can vouch for my mailman, too.  (and yes, he is a male postal carrier) 
davel
response 10 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 18:35 UTC 1995

I think we have a *long* way to go before this becomes a big problem for Grex.
zook
response 11 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 20:48 UTC 1995

I like checks for things like phone or gas bills because of the inherent
receipt it gives you.  They're usually pretty good about crediting the
proper account, but it's nice to have a little proof in reserve.
pegasus
response 12 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 03:40 UTC 1995

Money orders at Great Lakes Bancorp are $2 each. Perhaps that's helpful,
SCG?

        Pattie
scg
response 13 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 06:07 UTC 1995

Still, paying $2 to make $6 more secure seems a little excessive to me. 
BTW, I am planning on opening a checking account RSN.  It's just that if I
do it now I will have to drag my dad along to the bank with me, and then
go back in a few weeks and get his name taken off the account.  If I wait
a few weeks, I can just do it myself.
<scg is looking forward to becoming a legal adult>
chi1taxi
response 14 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 07:30 UTC 1995

lotsa places, esp. drug stores,  sell 20c, 39c, or 49c money orders
nephi
response 15 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 08:02 UTC 1995

Scg, why does your dad have to be on your account?  When I was 16, I got 
my first account (without parental permission).  

srw
response 16 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 07:01 UTC 1995

Not in Michigan. An account cannot be in a Minor's name. If scg got an account
before he was 18, it would fall under UGMA (Uniform Gift to Minors Act).
A parent or guardian would have to be the trustee of that account.
nephi
response 17 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 20:37 UTC 1995

Not a very good way to teach responsibility....
rywfol
response 18 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 04:31 UTC 1995

<rywfol comforts scg>
I remember back to my first account in my name when I was a wee 10 year old :)
tsty
response 19 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 10:45 UTC 1995

same here - savings account - for paper route profits, but I think
I was only 8 - third grade, something like that.
lilmo
response 20 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 21:20 UTC 1995

My parents got me an account at their jobs' credit union before I was
old enough to know it.  :-P
kenb
response 21 of 21: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 21:54 UTC 1995

Perry Drug stores sell American Express money orders for $.25
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