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Jan. '95 Board Candidate Survey Mark Unseen   Jan 23 23:26 UTC 1995

                 Ajax's January 1995 Board Candidacy Survey
 
This is a 27-question survey e-mailed to the board candidates on Tuesday,
January 17, 1995, in the evening.  Responses received by noon on Saturday,
January 21 were collated for easy reading, and are presented below.  Typos
may be mine or the candidates'.
 
The questions are designed to differentiate candidates.  Most of the questions
below intentionally concern controversial issues.  There are a small number
of personal questions.
 
Answers are listed by login id of the candidates:
 carl:    Carl T. Miller
 kentn:   Kent Stefl Nassen
 popcorn: Valerie Mates
 robh:    Robert Henderson
 scg:     Steve Gibbard
 srw:     Steven R. Weiss
 tsty:    TS Taylor
 
Candidates: Please answer with your personal opinion.  If you would vote
differently from your opinion (for example if most Grex members disagreed
with you), you can mention that too.  Elaborate on yes/no questions as you
see fit.  Keep responses to two 70-character lines or less.  Longer responses
will be truncated.
 
Disclaimer: I live with a candidate, but this survey is designed to be as
objective as possible.  I'm a Grex member, and have never run for the board.
 
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Post-survey addendum: Deadline was extended until today (1/23) due to downtime
during survey period.  Responses that were long (more than two 70-character
lines) were truncated without a line mentioning the truncation (it's generally
pretty obvious).  One candidate interpreted two questions in the same number
(e.g., question #5) as warranting two 2-line answers, and declined paring the
answers down.
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General Questions
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1. Describe yourself.  Examples: age, hobbies, what you spend your days doing.
 
carl    I am 39, single and work as a repairman for the Ann Arbor Public
        Schools.  I'm also a student of life, spirituality and computers.
kentn   Age 38; doctoral candidate in business at UM; hobbies computers, read-
        ing, etc.; I work as a Grad Student, Data Archive Specialist, and Res.
popcorn I'm a computer programmer, Grex staffer, former chair of Grex's
        board, and I plan to open a new business in the next few months.
robh    I'm 26 years old, and my hobbies include reading, programming,
        and hitting people with wooden sticks.
scg     I'm a computer and bike addict, and have been Grexing for over two
        years.  I also am a student at Community High and work for the U of M.
srw     Age 49 and I am a Computer Scientist at Comshare, Inc. Hobbies include
        Grex, writing shareware, investing, skiing, playing music, math, more.
tsty    Age is inconsequential; hobbies are computers, hardware electronics,
        tutoring and learning more. Time spent trying to make an honest dollar
 
2. What are your strengths and weaknesses?  (Ok, that's the last of the stock
questions!)
 
carl    I have good diplomatic/people skills and can become assertive when it
        is appropriate.  Main weakness:  becoming over-committed in projects.
kentn   Have managed people, operated a small business, I like solving prob-
        lems, and have a business education. Who in their right mind lists wea
popcorn Strengths: Technical skills, people skills, familarity with Grex.
        Weaknesses: Possible time crunch if I ever get a life off-line.
robh    Strengths - I know a lot about Unix and how to use Grex in general.
        Weaknesses - Hardware.  Don't ask, I can't tell.
scg     My greatest weakness at this point seems to be in writing short enough
        answers for this survey.
srw     Strengths: software expert, technologist, established professional,
        Experienced Grex Staffer. Weaknesses: nitpicker, source of technodrift
tsty    Quite well trained for analysis and synthesis of integrated systems,
        both mechanical and personal. Sometimes I forget to eat.
 
3. Generally, if you had no opinion on a board issue, 90% of Grex members felt
one way, and 90% of non-paying users felt the opposite, how would you vote?
 
carl    There is no way I'd not have an opinion.  I would trust my sense of
        awareness/judgement and vote according.
kentn   Depends, it's not always a popularity contest.  I'd try to take all
        points of view into consideration, as well as what is feasible and bes
popcorn I honestly don't know how I'd handle this.  It would depend on the
        specifics of the issue.
robh    I would ask the non-paying users why they opposed the issue, and
        see if I could change things to please both groups.
scg     I probably wouldn't notice who was paying and who wasn't, so I would
        probably vote with the greater number or best arguments.
srw     I would vote with the members as I represent them on the board.
        Since Grex is a charitable place, I'd expect this to be very rare.
tsty    For the members given only the conditions listed.
 
4. If you had a very strong opinion on a board issue, but it was opposite to
the opinion of 90% of Grex members and non-paying users, how would you vote?
 
carl    First, I would talk and listen as much as possible before the vote.
        Only in an emergency would I override others wishes.
kentn   Depends, it's not always a popularity contest, I'd try to take all
        points of view into consideration, as well as what is feasible and bes
popcorn Again it would depend on the issue.  Possibly relevant: I'm not a
        strong proponent of Grex's move, yet I'm putting a big effort into it.
robh    Unless it involved Grex doing something illegal or dangerous
        to the system, I would support what the users want.
scg     The board has to represent the members.  I would argue in coop for
        my position, but would vote for what the members want.
srw     If I had a strong opinion, It would be because of a good reason.  I
        would second-guess myself a lot, and then vote my opinion if it held.
tsty    For my position; persuation is slow. I'm willing to be wrong. Remember
        please, that unanimity is unnecessary, often counterproductive.
 
Realistic Issues (in the survey writer's opinion)
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5. Should a Grex user who won't reveal their true identity to anyone, but pays
member dues, receive voting rights?  Should s/he receive all member rights?
 
carl    Yes, if s/he reveals self to staff.  Otherwise, no, for security
        reasons since we are on the internet.
kentn   Yes.  Pursuant to whatever policies we have regarding identification
        for Internet access, yes.
popcorn Current policy says the user can have voting rights but not Internet
        access.  I'm comfortable with this policy.
robh    No.  It's fine with me if the Treasurer is the only one who knows
        who they are, but *someone* has to know.
scg     Voting rights, probably (if that's legal).  Internet
        access is a different story, due to the need for authentication.
srw     No, No. I support anonymity as a feature of Grex, but not giving
        individuals a way to buy votes or purchase access to repeatedly spam
tsty    Yes; yes.
 
6. Do you think Grex should seek 501(c)3 non-profit status, barring major
legal hurdles?  Should a lawyer be hired to resolve questions? (coop item 32)
 
carl    At this point I'm in favor of the idea.  A lawyer could be hired if/
        when it seems appropriate, after considering alternatives.
kentn   If 501(c)3 status will help Grex's donators and increase donations,
        yes, though right now it doesn't seem to be holding us back. I think w
popcorn Seeking 501(c)3 status is a good idea.  If a lawyer's time is
        affordable, hiring a lawyer is worth considering.
robh    Yes, and I'll go a step further and suggest we look seriously at
        re-incorporating as a cooperative in the legal sense.
scg     Tax exempt status is good, if we can get it.  Still, we should do
        what's good for Grex, even if that puts 501(c)3 in jeopardy.
srw     Yes, we should seek this.
        No, I don't believe it should require hiring a lawyer.
tsty    Yes; eventually yes.
 
7. In the first half of 1994, did you favor moving Grex from its old location
to its new location?  Do you favor the move today?
 
carl    Yes.  ;-)  Yes, even after my back and feet started complaining.
kentn   Yes.  The staff needed 24 hour access and a better environment.
        Yes.  We still need the access, etc.
popcorn Then and now, I don't think the move is urgent.  Other people do.  It
        will be good to be done and have more staff energy for other projects.
robh    Yes, and yes.  Limited access to the hardware is the biggest problem
        the Grex staff has these days, and I want to resolve that.
scg     I didn't know much about the issue then, but if I had known about it I
        would have supported it.  I also support the move now.
srw     I have always favored it and still do.
tsty    I favored moving Grex as soon as possible and with the grateful recog-
        nition of the benefits that Ken Ascher has allowed us. Still yes.
 
8. What proposed approach did you like best for solving the problem of not
reaching quorum during the most recent election?  (coop items 54 & others)
 
carl    I liked the idea of amending the bylaws concerning quorum and
        having a new election.
kentn   Removal of all voting quorums, except those applying to board session
        votes.
popcorn I favored lowering or eliminating quorums.  Quorums force uninterested
        people to cast uninformed votes & allow some strange voting loopholes.
robh    My preferred approach was allowing members to abstain.  But
        I was also in favor or srw's proposal to eliminate quorums.
scg     The voted on policy was the best choice at the time.  Now we need
        to see if it needs improvement.
srw     I proposed the abandonment of quorums.
tsty    Leading with ideas for discussion, and generating more ideas from
        other people.
 
9. What, if anything, should be done when a user's login id or name offends
many users and members (e.g., "Kill A. Fag", "peniscutter", or much worse)?
 
carl    I'd like to hear what others say before deciding.  I like having
        an open system with appropriate response to offensive behaviour.
kentn   Ignore it.  They're mostly trying to get a rise out of people.
        Social pressure is best in this case.  Also, educate about rseps.
popcorn Talk to them and explain problem, ask them to change name.  It's a
        tough question of freedom of speech vs. freedom to not be offended.
robh    Absolutely nothing.  I despise censorship, even when the material
        offends me.  I.e. someone named "Kill a Witch".
scg     Grex shouldn't censor except in very extreme cases. Changed names have
        aroused some anger, but not created real problems.
srw     This should be decided by the community on an individual basis.
        It has been handled that way in the past, and it should continue.
tsty    Engage in direct and continuous communications with the baby. Lobby
        for a change. Consider alternatives including a chase if necessary.
 
10. If an item contained very personal information about a person who wanted
it removed, do you think it should be removed?  If so, who should decide?
 
carl    This could be a case-by-case decision.  I'd like to see individual
        decisions made by staff with policy guidance by the Grex community.
kentn   If the item was a potential legal liability for Grex, we should
        consider removing it. The board should decide, based on the person's r
popcorn Another tough question.  I think it should be removed, but beware of
        slipping to censorship.  User consensus & affected user should decide.
robh    As long as the information wasn't being used to hurt the other
        person, no, don't remove it.
scg     Censorship should be very rare, but it would have to depend on the
        case.  The big question would be whether something was libelous.
srw     Again this needs determination individually, but it is a little
        different. Fast action is more helpful here, to be undone if needed.
tsty    Yes; the person who is victimized and requested such, as the precept
        to this question, makes the final decision.
 
11. Do you think that Grex should accept dues by credit card?  If so, would
you be willing to be Treasurer, doing the added work involved?  (coop item 71)
 
carl    I think that would be a great option.  I personally wouldn't be
        able to devote the time to being treasurer at this time.
kentn   If problems related to security can be minimized, the user fees and
        the costs to Grex (including time) aren't excessive, yes.
popcorn Yes.  Though danr does a great job as treasurer and I'd be delighted
        if he would be willing to continue.
robh    If someone else wants to implement a credit-card ability for Grex,
        that's fine.  But I would not devotre my time to doing it myself.
scg     I don't have time to be Treasurer.  Accepting credit cards would be
        nice, but I wouldn't force it on an unwilling Treasurer.
srw     This is not worth the trouble, in my opinion.
tsty    +Could+, not necessarily +should+. It seems like too much grief though
 
12. If a staff member refuses to help implement some board decisions based
solely on their personal disagreement with the decisions, what should the
board do?  Would you feel the same if Grex had a large staff?  (coop item 59)
 
carl    I'd like to see the board and staff get together and seek resolution
        on the specific issue as well as decision-making/implementation.
kentn   Depends if other staff can and are willing to implement the decision.
        In general, find someone else to do it, after reconsidering staff's op
popcorn Talk to the staffer.  See if other staffers can & will do the work.
        Maybe find more staffers.  If larger staff, I'd still feel this way.
robh    I'd ask the other staff members if they would do it, and I'd ask the
        staff members to attend a Board meeting and discuss things thoroughly
scg     Volunteers don't have to do what they don't want to do.  If no staff
        will do something, help from another volunteer might be worth seeking.
srw     Nothing unless all staff members refused. Then staff and board should
        have a meeting to iron this out. If impossible, get a new staff.
tsty    Find a staff member with less disagreement, if possible. Yes, a larger
        staff (larger for other reasons) provides wider opinion range.
 
Less Realistic Issues (in the survey writer's opinion)
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13. If 4,096 new Grex users were going to log on, would you personally prefer
that they were all from SE Michigan, all from the U.S. (evenly distributed),
or distributed evenly throughout the international internet community?
 
carl    I'd like to see a diverse mixture of people who like to be here.
        To me, their location is irrelevant.
kentn   Yes.
popcorn Maybe 2048 local to Ann Arbor/Ypsi and 2048 spread evenly around the
        world?  Both types of user are appreciated!!
robh    It doesn't matter to me.
scg     Locals can give us a stronger sense of community, but non locals can
        bring a broader perspective. Out of 4K Grexers, I'd like some of both.
srw     I would like an equal mix of local, state, US, and international
        users.
tsty    I would not prefer an "evenly distributed" geography. Grex is not
        going to be all things to all people, therefore a Grex niche.
 
14. Considering Grex's current budget and membership, do you think membership
dues should be changed from their current levels?  If so, in which direction?
 
carl    At this time, dues seem okay.  I'd be willing to consider changes if
        folks thought it would be a good idea.
kentn   No.  Our current dues structure is fair and reasonable.
popcorn Dues are OK where they are.  Possibly, if Grex had a really big
        surplus, dues could be lowered, but that's an unlikely event!
robh    No.  We're generating a surplus now.  (And hopefully setting some
        aside in case we stop making money later.)
scg     Membership dues seem to be working quite well as they are.  I don't
        see a reason for changing them.
srw     I think the dues do not need to be changed.
tsty    No change needed.
 
15. If a known Grex member obtained root, used it evilly, and was clearly
caught, what should be done (other than fixing however they got root)?
 
carl    I'd like to see staff (with guidance from the board and the community)
        handle the situation appropriately (ie, attempt to dialog, then act).
kentn   Contact the proper authorities, if by "evilly" you mean with
        malicious intent and knowledge of the harm their actions would cause.
popcorn Depending on the situation, I'd favor either asking the cops for help
        or talking to the user.  Repeat offenders, definitely cops.
robh    That's the point at which I would want someone booted off the system.
scg     That would have to be looked at if it happened, but causing damage
        should be treated seriously.
srw     If a crime were committed by the evil act, I would support turning
        anyone caught over to the civil authorities.
tsty    There could be some sort of sanction invoked, based on the "evil." And
        I would thank her for showing us a leak in the system.
 
16. If a qualified person volunteered for staff, but current staff objected
for non-performance-related reasons, would you still appoint them to staff?
 
carl    I'd want to have a discussion with all appropriate parties before
        making any decision.
kentn   What "non-performance-related reasons"?  I'd like to think we have
        room on our staff for diversity, but they do have to work together.
popcorn No.  Staff needs to be able to work together.  I trust staff's
        collective judgement.  I think this situation is unlikely to occur.
robh    Yes.  The most I would do is suggest that they work on different
        projects.
scg     Staff being able to work together is essential for staff to work well.
        Staff should play a very big role in the decision.
srw     It would depend on the reasons that staff brought forward. I would
        want staff to provide some very good reasons.
tsty    Possibly so, delicate balance here, appointment, if effected, would
        not be immediate. Take the time to work over the problems first.
 
Internet/Usenet Issues ("censorship" here means barring access from Grex)
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17. Do you think ftp and telnet access should be opened up to all validated
users?  If not, would you if Grex's internet connection quadrupled in speed?
 
carl    That's something I'd like to see one day.  I trust it will happen
        when we're ready for it to happen.
kentn   Yes.
popcorn No to both, though I'd be willing to try it if Grex's internet
        connection were a *lot* faster and users strongly favored it.
robh    Right now, no.  If we had the resources, yes I would, though I don't
        even think that a quadrupling would be enough.
scg     Not at this point, and a 4x increase in speed still might not be
        enough, but with a big enough increase it should be considered.
srw     No. Not even at full T1 speeds. I believe that we offer a huge amount
        for free, and will benefit by keeping a "carrot" for membership.
tsty    No; no.
 
18. Do you support the policy of allowing all users to read usenet, and all
validated users to post to usenet (when usenet is working)?  (coop item 26)
 
carl    Yes.
kentn   Yes.
popcorn Sure!
robh    Absolutely.  I've found another source for Usenet, but I still
        want Usenet back on Grex as soon as possible.
scg     Unlike FTP, this won't slow Grex down much, so I support it.
srw     Yes, I do.
tsty    Yes, no.
 
19. If a validated user *insisted* (despite discussions) on repeatedly
posting commercial ads to unrelated usenet newsgroups, what should be done?
 
carl    Have staff dialog (with guidance from board and community) with user
        and look into options on case-by-case basis.
kentn   Remove posting privileges, although "commercial ads" is a grey area.
        Responsible net behavior is a requirement for the privilege of access.
popcorn Give several warnings, then revoke their Usenet posting access.
robh    Nuke the accounts.  Period.  Spammers are worse than hackers, IMHO.
scg     Grex has to be a good neighbor on the net.  In extreme cases
        cutting off access for the user might be necessary.
srw     Access to usenet should be removed to prevent such continued abuse.
        It could be done temporarily or permanently, depending on situation.
tsty    Make it much more difficult for that pern to post, in any of a variety
        of ways.
 
20. Would you favor censorship of newsgroups that contained pictures of
rembrandt paintings, even though half the postings infringed on copyrights?
 
carl    At this point, yes, especially if there are legal implications.
kentn   I would favor the blocking of newsgroups *because* of the postings
        that unfringed on copyrights. (That creates a possible legal problem f
popcorn Yes.  I'd like to see Grex stay legal.
robh    Yes.  I oppose censorship, but I also oppose Grex being confiscated
        by the police and remaining in impound for a year.
scg     Rembrandt paintings are old enough that copyright laws don't apply to
        them, as far as I know.
srw     Yes, Grex cannot participate in illegal acts. If we know a group
        regularly carries some copyright violations, we shouldn't carry it.
tsty    Yes, unless it was an accidental posting.
 
21. Would you favor censorship of newsgroups that contained pictures that are
copyright-free, but that depicted deviant sexual acts such as beastiality?
 
carl    At this point, yes.
kentn   Not unless the pictures broke a law Grex would be punishable under and
        the newsgroups showed us reason to expect they'd continue in the pract
popcorn Yes, I think so, even though it blurs some lines that are currently
        very clear-cut by Grex's current policies.
robh    If there were a foolproof way to guarantee that they were copyright
        free, I would want anyone who was of legal age to have access to those
scg     If Grex gets into News censorship for other than legal reasons, there
        is no telling where it could lead.  Censorship is not a good idea.
srw     This is a matter of community standards. The Grex community is pretty
        permissive on these matters, and I can live with that.
tsty    Yes, unless the posting was in error.
 
22. Would you favor censorship of newsgroups that often contain explicit
written fantasies of abducting, molesting, and murdering young children?
 
carl    At this point, yes.
kentn   No, not unless such writings leave Grex liable under law.  In general,
        I am against censorship, but try to remain wary of legal pitfalls.
popcorn I don't know.  I would be more in favor of getting rid of pictures
        than text, but this is a difficult question.
robh    No, but I sure as Hecate wouldn't read them.
scg     Are those legal?  If they are, as painful as it is, Grex should not
        be in the censorship business.
srw     Same as 21 above, except that this might go beyond the standards of
        our little community. I would be comfortable with censoring then.
tsty    Yes, unless the postng were an accident
 
Fiscal/Technical Questions
--------------------------
23. If Grex's main CPU needed replacement in a year, would you favor buying
another Sun, or changing to a Pentium or other platform? (coop item 59)
 
carl    I'd want to hear from others (especially staff) before deciding.
        At this time, I'd lean toward a pc platform.
kentn   The Sun path seems to be preferred by staff (and they have to maintain
        it), so I'd strongly consider staying with Sun equipment.
popcorn I'd favor choosing whichever is more powerful and less expensive at
        the time.
robh    If we have the person-power, yes, I favor switching to an x86 based
        architecture.
scg     It's the staff who would notice the difference.  That's a technical
        issue that the board should defer to the staff on.
srw     Probably stick with Sun to keep a Sparc update path for Grex, but go
        with Intel boxes for supporting hosts. (I don't feel strongly, tho.)
tsty    Stay with Sun.
 
24. Hypothetically, if Grex had $5500 in its bank account, no unpaid bills,
and the options below cost $1250 each, which would *you* favor purchasing?
Ignore installation considerations (these are hypothetical).  If you choose
four items, you'll have $500 for operating costs, though you may want to
keep more for emergencies or other projects.  Remember, answer in two lines!
 
  1. Add 2.5 gigabytes of disk space
  2. Add 5 more modems and phone lines for one year
3&4. Buy a 486, 16Mb RAM, 1Gb disk, and 9600 baud internet for one year for
     a usenet news feed (3&4 meaning for a hypothetical $2500).
5&6. Buy a high speed terminal server, six 14.4 kbps modems, and one year
     of six phone lines, for six high-speed dial-in lines.  (Again, $2500).
  6. Buy a UPS that would keep Grex running during 2 hours of power outage
  7. Donate $1250 to charities
  8. Double Grex's CPU speed (this is admittedly a little vague)
  9. Double Grex's internet connection bandwidth for one year
 10. Double Grex's RAM, from 64 megs to 128 megs
 11. Make Grex available from Merit's "Which Host?" prompt for one year?
 12. Pay $1250 in dividends to current members
 
carl    I like the idea of 3&4, 8 and 9.  Of course, if/when decision time
        came, I'd listen to what others have to say.
kentn   8, 9, 11, save the rest for emergencies, other smaller projects, and
        operating costs.
popcorn First is faster net connection and faster Grex itself.  Do this with
        9 and 8, then maybe 11, 2 or 3&4.  Save rest of money for emergencies.
robh    12 is a joke, right?  I would select 3&4, 9, and keep the
        rest in case of an emergency.
scg     All would be nice, but I would want advice from staff before making
        a decision.
srw     (3&4) Usenet, and (9) Internet connection increase. I'd add more
        modems (2) also if the about-to-be added ones weren't enough.
tsty    First: Terminal server & HS modei; second: 64 Meg more RAM; third: UPS
        to run Grex for 2 powerless hours; fourth: cash reserve
 
25. Do you think any large non-emergency expenditures like the above should
be voted on by the membership, or voted on just by the board?
 
carl    As long as our board tends to consider the membership's desires, a
        board decision is okay by me.
kentn   The board, with the advice of the membership and users via conference
        and board meeting public discussion well prior to the decision.
popcorn I'd want to see lots of membership input and discussion, though not
        necessarily a membership vote.  Board should follow member consensus.
robh    I'd favor discussing the options in Co-op, and possibly Agora,
        and then having the Board vote, keeping in mind what the users want.
scg     The Board is there so the members won't have to vote.  If a member
        disagrees with the board decision, they can call a vote.
srw     The board.
tsty    Advice from the membership, voted on by the board.
 
Conclusion
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26. What issues do you want the board to vote on in your first 100 days of
office?  (Don't worry, this isn't a binding Contract with Grexmerica).
 
carl    I'm not aware of anything that I would "push" for at this point.  I'd
        like appropriate decisions to be made or not made at appropriate times
kentn   Expanding the role of staff. Staff training. Formal planning for ex-
        pansion. Methods to increase donations and members. Buy new equipment.
popcorn Budgeting and planning.
robh    Deciding what direction we want Grex to go in, and choosing our
        hardware and software modifications accordinglly.
scg     Grex needs better long term planning an a system to make sure people
        know about upcoming elections.
srw     Allocation of funds for a workable Usenet solution.
        Informal association with HVCN, and possibly internet link expansion.
tsty    The move was about the only thing needing a swift kick.Next, *I* would
        appreciate a vote program that has NO method of vote/voter connnection
 
27. Do you have any parting comments or disclaimers about this survey or your
answers (e.g., questions are biased/irrelevent, too long, not enough time)?
 
carl    It was just right.  Concise answers are easier to work with and will
        lead (I hope) to a more well-informed decision by the membership.
kentn   Yes, all of the above. Not enough space allotted to respond. More than
        27 questions.  Should have asked earlier.  In general, a good idea.
popcorn I had lots more to say on many topics.
        Nice idea to do a survey - thanks!
robh    None, except thanks for doing this!
scg     Due to space restrictions, some answers are overly brief.  Please
        feel free to ask if you want more information about an answer.
srw     Except for question #2, which was dumb, these questions were tough,
        but fair.  Thanks for doing this, Rob.
tsty    Certainly terse in format, nicely direct, pushed some buttons, a lot
        of 'hypotheticals,' mandated terse answers; take them in that vein.
 
Many thanks to those who took the time to respond!!  -Rob
28 responses total.
steve
response 1 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 01:47 UTC 1995

   *Excellent* Job Rob, for doing this!
   Thanks to all the candidates for answering, too.
popcorn
response 2 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:31 UTC 1995

Yes, thanks Rob!


One thing that may be useful in reading the survey is knowing which
candidates are on Grex's staff.  For example, some people answered
questions with "I would consult with staff..." while others didn't,
generally because the second group of people are already on the staff.

Staffers are: carl, srw, and me.  Though at a recent board meeting
the board discussed changing the definition of staff to a much
broader definition of staff that would actually include *all* of the
current board candidates.
jep
response 3 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:59 UTC 1995

        This survey seemed excellent.  The answers look to me to be
sufficient for a more or less uninformed voter to use in determining who
to support in the election.  There were enough topical questions, and also
enough questions of philosophy, to give a good overall picture.
        Excellent job on the answers, too, candidates!
carson
response 4 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 05:30 UTC 1995

I'll be changing my current vote extensively. Thanks ajax!
chelsea
response 5 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 12:57 UTC 1995

Very nice, Rob.  Thanks for doing this.
rcurl
response 6 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 18:19 UTC 1995

One of the best such candidate questionnaires I've seen. 
tsty
response 7 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 19:46 UTC 1995

Quite levelheaded - terse was nice, it mandated focus.
danr
response 8 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 22:18 UTC 1995

I, too, want to thank Rob for entering this.
scg
response 9 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 22:59 UTC 1995

Thanks, Rob!!!
cicero
response 10 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 08:47 UTC 1995

kudos
popcorn
response 11 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 06:16 UTC 1995

I know a lot of the candidates wanted to say a lot more than could be fit
into 140 characters.  I'd be interested to hear what else they wanted to
say about the issues in the survey.

Here are some other things I want to say:

I consider myself to be vehemently against censorship.  When I re-read my
survey responses, this doesn't come across very clearly.  I'd guess this
is because the survey is designed to test the candidates' thoughts on the
special exception cases, but not necessarily their general feelings about
censorship.

In the question about offensive names, I'd be strongly against forcibly
changing someone's name.  (Unless the name was truly illegal, for example
if it contained someone's credit card number).  If someone chooses an
offensive name, I'd want to talk to them about it, but not forcibly change
the name.  I'm a strong believer in talking things through.

Talking things through can solve almost any problem.  It's my first choice
of approach for dealing with any issue.  I've had very good results in
dealing with people honestly, by putting all my cards on the table rather
than playing political games, and I intend to continue to deal with people
that way.

For *any* of the questions in the survey, if a majority of Grex users felt
strongly one way and I felt differently, I'd expect that the majority had
thought things through and had good strong reasons for coming to the
conclusions they did.  I'd give the issue a lot of thought, and I'd do a
lot of listening to what everybody had to say and questioning of my own
thoughts before making any decisions.
ajax
response 12 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 09:54 UTC 1995

I'm glad folks liked the survey.  Most of the respondents did indicate that
they found the space limit too restrictive.  If I had it to do over, I'd 
increase or eliminate the response length limit, though I wonder if a really
long survey would cause fewer voters to read it.  
remmers
response 13 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 10:58 UTC 1995

Maybe a slight increase in the length limit, but don't eliminate it.
Candidates have the opportunity to expound at length elsewhere.
steve
response 14 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 17:38 UTC 1995

   Thats right.  This survey was the first I'd ever seen that imposed
"speaking limits".  Perhaps four or five lines in future surveys but
no more.
popcorn
response 15 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 03:22 UTC 1995

The League of Women Voters publishes a survey that limits the length
of each candidate's response, before each state and national election.
steve
response 16 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 06:21 UTC 1995

   I'll have to read it next election then.  A wonderful idea.
rcurl
response 17 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 07:31 UTC 1995

I think that with the number of items in this questionnaire, the single
answer length limit was reasonable - the reader got an overview of
the candidates opinions. If the length was increased, I'm afraid the
whole questionnaire would show symptoms of bloat.
cicero
response 18 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 15:51 UTC 1995

I thought that the limits were wonderful (with apologies to the candidates).
Maybe one or two lines more would be good, but no more than that.
carl
response 19 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 28 04:42 UTC 1995

I liked having the 2 line restriction more so as a member who is
interested in seeing what the other candidates have to say.
Overall I was very impressed by the questions which gave me a
quick and easy way to get a picture of who all is running for
the board.

tsty
response 20 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 28 19:17 UTC 1995

Off the top of my head, I can type for hours, given a keats of text
for a limit, I'll have to think a little about what I type. Limit
me to two lines, and I really have to consider carefully what
I type. Two lines did the job well.
lilmo
response 21 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 28 21:28 UTC 1995

Good job on the survey, author and respondents both !!

One suggestion:  Allow SOME longer answers, e.g., x number of extra lines per
candidate to distribute or not use as they please, or give an extra line or two
for certain questions (or some combination thereof).
rcurl
response 22 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 28 22:40 UTC 1995

That would take a fuss to enforce. I feel that no one question is
*critical*, given the full sweep of this questionnaire. (Or, if a
long response is absolutely necessary - though I do not believe that
should ever be the case - the candidate could enter: "e-mail me at....."
;->).
ajax
response 23 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 04:39 UTC 1995

Actually I like that idea.  *This* survey had some probs, as most people
missed either the "two lines" or the "70 characters."  If there were a
text box around each response area, variable length responses would be
easily noticed.  "Describe yourself" could definitely use more space!  :)
carson
response 24 of 28: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 11:09 UTC 1995

ajas, is there a separate file that can be read to see the info in #0? it's
a tad of a pain for me to sort through because I don't have scrollback
capabilities at the moment, and would like to use "tail" on it.

oops, make that "ajax". :)
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