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Article on Community Networks Mark Unseen   Jan 8 02:26 UTC 1995

Here's a little something I picked up from the January issue
of Computer-Mediated Communications Magazine.  (The URL is
http://www.rpi.edu/~decemj/cmc/mag/ for you Web-capable folks.)


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   Computer-Mediated Communication Magazine / Volume 2, Number 1/ January
   1, 1995 / Page 6
   
   
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                    CAN WE KEEP COMMUNITY NETWORKS RUNNING?
                                       
   By Steve Cisler (sac@apple.com)
   
   Over the past few years I have had a growing interest in community
   computing networks. They started in the 1980s with systems such as
   Community Memory in Berkeley, California, Cleveland (Ohio) Free-Net,
   and the Santa Monica Public Electronic Network. As the Internet has
   grown, so has the interest in local access to local information and
   local design of points of access to distant information and computing
   resources. The community networks being set up in the 1990s are based
   on electronic BBS software such as
     * SoftArc's FirstClass, eBoard's TBBS, or Galacticom's Major BBS
       package;
     * Freeport software from Case Western Reserve University for large
       Free-Net systems;
     * University of Minnesota's Gopher;
     * World Wide Web for many of the latest city and regional offerings;
     * combinations of freely available software running on Unix and
       Linux platforms; and
     * some combinations of proprietary conferencing and database
       software.
       
   Although there is no national or international organization to act as
   an umbrella for all of these systems, community network participants
   are using Internet mailing lists such as COMMUNET and FREENET-ADMIN to
   discuss policy issues, growing pains, and the rapid changes in
   hardware and software offerings.
   
   Many of the present community networks are labors of love; they draw
   on the volunteer spirit of both technical and non-technical citizens
   in a town or region. Having participated in many of the initial town
   meetings where the energy level runs high and the desire to work
   together is strong, I know the long-term value of these electronic
   barn raisings. For the first time, many groups are talking to each
   other in order to bring about a common goal--establishing a community
   network. By working together, groups often times establish links
   between people, links that are independent of their original
   electronic networking goals. These are magic moments, but the
   day-to-day activities and the financial burden of growing a system to
   meet the demands of an ever-expanding base of new users can try the
   unity of even the most energetic and cooperative organizing groups.
   
   
   
Who provides support now?

   Besides the individuals involved in setting up and running these
   community networks, there are various other entities that support
   these systems:
     * individual users through their donations and subscription fees;
     * local businesses through cash donations, sponsorship of phone
       lines, items to raffle or auction off;
     * international companies that wish to promote their own products by
       donating computers, modems, routers, software, and services;
     * Internet service providers that see these systems as partners
       (though some see them as competitors);
     * foundations that understand the need for a communications
       component for many of their grant programs, especially those
       dealing with community health, education, and development;
     * local, state, provincial, and national grants to meet particular
       political or strategic goals at the local level;
     * school districts, colleges, and universities that work with their
       local communities.
       
   
   
What are the challenges to community networks?

   Community computing networks provide a valuable service, but many
   problems threaten their lasting success:
     * the lack of stable funding sources;
     * competition from other businesses and organizations with more
       resources than the start-up networks;
     * the increasing expectation of better (or at least not degraded)
       services and connectivity on the part of the usersr;
     * the goal of serving all users including those with orphaned or
       underpowered computers, or those without any equipment or
       training.
       
  THE SEARCH FOR STABLE FUNDING
  
   The National Public Telecomputing Network has been successful in
   landing a number of grants to help various systems get underway; other
   NPTN affiliates and other community systems have also received
   government and foundation funding. NPTN is promoting the idea of a
   taxpayer-funded organization akin to the Corporation for Public
   Broadcasting where centrally archived data is fed to the outlying
   member networks. Some states may support this idea, but given the
   strength of the Bell telephone companies in Congress, it is unlikely
   that such a proposal would survive a Congressional committee markup
   session.
   
   However, the telcos do not act in concert; some, such as NYNEX, have
   opposed the use of any government funds for community systems, at the
   same time that the US West Foundation supports systems such as Big Sky
   Telegraph in Dillon, Montana, and Bell Atlantic has provided generous
   support for Blacksburg Electronic Village in Virginia.
   
   In addition to resistance from some of the telcos, support for funding
   community networks is likely to face public resistance from taxpayers.
   The taxpayer revolt that started with Proposition 13 in California in
   the late 1970s continues to spread. Older, more conservative voters
   are shooting down measures for new public education and library
   projects if it means increased government debt or new taxes. It is
   unlikely that the electorate in many towns would support a new tax
   structure or special district for the establishment and maintenance of
   a community network. Municipal support has come in some towns such as
   Santa Monica, California, and Taos, New Mexico, but these are the
   exceptions. Organizers will have to make a compelling case for the
   dollar and civic value of these networks, and few studies or surveys
   have been completed over the past eight years. Fortunately, Richard
   Civille of the Center for Civic Networking is making pragmatic
   arguments for community networks as a basic part of the infrastructure
   needed for economic development. In addition, the Blacksburg
   Electronic Village recently completed a survey that shows how
   important free public access points are for users below a certain
   income level.
   
   
   
  COMPETITION FROM NEWSPAPERS AND CONSUMER ON-LINE SERVICES
  
   The average household in 1996 will have information flowing in through
   traditional channels and newer ones such as wireless, hybrid cable,
   enhanced copper-based services, and direct satellite. Many businesses
   and organizations will influence how consumers spend their time in
   front of a video screen. Community network offerings will be just one
   among many choices.
   
   Another force making itself felt in the on-line world is newspapers.
   Fearful of the telcos and cable companies, they are concerned with
   declining readership rates and consequently diminished revenue from
   classified and other advertisements. Some are looking to partnerships
   with consumer information services to provide local information.
   Prodigy, for example, is now working with Times Mirror and even has
   a staff member devoted to community network issues; the San Jose
   Mercury News has a less than satisfactory relationship with America
   Online, but they do serve their local readership is some unique ways.
   In addition, although some believe that the newspapers are so powerful
   that they will smother the ad hoc, grass-roots community networks, and
   Free-Nets, in Peoria, Illinois, and Charlotte, North Carolina,
   newspapers are supporting the systems, and we should not forget the
   past videotext debacles of the New York Times and Times Mirror in the
   1980s. Just because a company has the money doesn't mean it can
   succeed in the on-line business.
   
   Many of the services provided on community systems are valuable to the
   community as a whole, but they may not make much money. Commercial
   services seeking a healthy return on their investment may avoid
   marginally profitable services.
   
   The premise of most community systems is that the participants want to
   get local information--job listings, sports scores, community
   calendars, etc.--and to exchange mail and participate in discussions
   with fellow citizens. To support access to local information,
   community network organizers have persuaded government offices,
   hospitals, and local organizations to input their data and maintain
   it. But many users are primarily interested in getting out of town,
   that is, using resources located around the world via the Internet. If
   the statistics show little local use because the subscribers are
   spending time elsewhere and not in the local files and discussion
   areas, the local agencies and businesses may cease to maintain the
   data files, and the community system will be like a dying mid-town
   shopping center where the tenants drift away to the suburbs.
   
  HOW DO YOU KEEP 'EM DOWN ON VT100 AFTER THEY'VE SEEN MOSAIC?
  
   The challenge of serving all users, whether they have a Commodore 64
   or a PowerMac--or no computer at all--is complex and expensive. This
   is a time when institutions that try to serve everyone are in trouble:
   public schools, television networks, phone companies, newspapers,
   government, general merchandise stores, large religious groups. The
   successful ones are aiming at niches, sometimes very large and
   sometimes very small. For a confederation of under-funded community
   systems to try to offer low- or no-cost access to everyone is a goal
   that is admirable but not attainable (for some of the reasons listed
   above).
   
   Many systems are settling on a text-based system for VT-100 terminal
   access as a low common denominator. In addressing the low-end user,
   some of the high-end users may be rapidly bored and move on to systems
   (free or for profit) that offer a richer set of options and
   interfaces. For this reason, some community systems are using the
   World Wide Web or graphic BBSes such as NovaLink, FirstClass, or DOS
   systems that support RIP Script. All of these offer a text interface,
   but the graphic interface brings in more new users. To see what I
   mean, people reading this with Mosaic, NetCruiser, MacWeb, or Netscape
   should switch over to Lynx and see how different the experience is. On
   some graphics-heavy systems, it is similar to just listening to the
   sound track of an action movie.
   
   Besides a choice of interfaces, systems have to be reliable even if
   they are free. One community system had a major crash, was off-line
   for over a month, and because there was no backup system, more than a
   years worth of electronic archives of files and messages were lost!
   This sort of casual attitude makes community systems look amateurish
   and flakey.
   
How Do We Keep Them Running?

   To keep the grass roots community systems running, I recommend a
   difficult course. Some of the following suggestions contradict others:
   
   
     * ensure that your membership is representative of the communities
       you serve. Though broad representation can inhibit rapid decision
       making, community consensus is a great strength.
     * be inclusive rather than exclusive in the information and services
       that you provide (you may be challenged by those who want to
       censor or filter the offerings under the guise of "community
       standards")
     * make alliances and partnerships with governments, schools,
       non-profits, and businesses to set up and maintain the system.
       (The idea of an information commons or electronic greenbelt that
       can be used by all parties should be at the core of your
       presentation.)
     * offer commercial services in order to sustain and subsidize
       listings on a system will generate income to pay for installation
       and upkeep of the Web browsers in the library and senior center.
     * focus on content and services that can reside on another, larger
       system at a commercial online service or regional network
       provider. Not maintaining your own host computer can be
       liberating!
     * Even if you have no fees, place user support as a top priority.
       Use the support you give to build loyalty and support for the
       system.
       
   
   
   This strategy is a far cry from the modest resources needed to run a
   four- line BBS with a discussion area, the city council minutes and
   school lunch menus, but if we are to keep our community-based computer
   networks and information servers from becoming the equivalent of an
   underfunded county or city hospital--an information source of last
   resort--then we must face these challenges now. ¤
   
   Steve Cisler is a Senior Scientist in the library at Apple Computer,
   Inc. in Cupertino, California. His background is in public libraries
   where he worked for 14 years before coming to Apple in 1988. Since
   1987 he has run a conference on libraries and information on The
   WELL, a Unix-based computer conferencing system in Sausalito,
   California. He writes for Library Journal, Wired, and Whole Earth
   Review.
   
   Copyright ©1995 by Steve Cisler. All Rights Reserved.
     _________________________________________________________________
   
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22 responses total.
andyv
response 1 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 04:47 UTC 1995

I feel good that I was mentioned in this article, "orphaned or underpowered."
Now we don't have to feel alone in the community-based group.  What is going
to be our niche, if we choose the advice to find a niche?  Is he really
correct in stating, "...to try to offer low or no-cost access to everyone
is admirable but not attainable..."?

Several of us here in Sault Ste. Marie, MI are happy that Grex is here.
We are definately in debted to whoever provides the free access to michnet
and mlink too.  Even though the long term outlook for our free ride doesn't
look good because of the financial pressures (Traverse City Freent is 
going to allow open access to a five county area only as of mid Jan. and
the grumblings concerning free access to mlink and merit), a commendable
effort to launch communities into the information age has been great.

Michigan seems to be very well connected.  Should we all be writing our
representatives urging them to support state wide services?  Are the dial
in users of grex able to access all the stuff I can through michnet-merit?
mdw
response 2 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 08:23 UTC 1995

It would be very worth-while to let your state representatives know that
they value the "Free" dial-in service provided by merit, and would like
to see it generally expanded, with the idea of making it easy for
consumers in this state to reach small businesses within this state.

Some things to be concerned about are: if this service is allowed to
become controlled by large operations such as compuserve, & prodigy,
small businesses, which are more likely to create local jobs and pump
money back into the local economy, could be squeezed out of the
information marketplace.  Also organizations such as gdsb, & grex, which
are non-commercial enterprises, might find it impossible to add their
value to the community.

Some issues to be concerned about include support costs (somebody *does*
have to pay for the modems & phone lines - but merit's expenses, may, in
fact, be a bit steep.)  Anonymous access is another issue; merit has
traditionally offered this, but is moving away from this; that imposes a
tremondous potential administrative burden that will probably greatly
limit future access by the public, without necessarily providing any
real protection against abuse in return.
scg
response 3 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 02:52 UTC 1995

I just loved their predictions for 1996.  That's only a year from now.
cel
response 4 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 20:10 UTC 1995

is there any kind of "networking" among freenets?  i mean in the
sense that ideas are shared?  how are freenets represented to
government (like unions represent workers)?  what's organization
like, and maybe can it be improved?
pegasus
response 5 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 21:59 UTC 1995

Just for the record, TBBS is produced by eSoft.

        Pattie
andyv
response 6 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 03:13 UTC 1995

I've been reading the fallout on Traverse City Freenet over their decision
to restrict new accounts to the 5 county area surrounding T.C.  Sounds
a lot like our discussions here but there they have a hierarchy which 
defined their goal and brought down the axe.  They are getting out of'

the open access to new user business.  Denver Freenet put a stop on all
new accounts for a month a month ago (haven't checked the talk lately).
mdw
response 7 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 07:53 UTC 1995

Grex is not a freenet.  A freenet is actually, in essence, a brand name;
it's owned by an organization, and they're franchised out on a
geographical basis, rather like a McDonalds or a Burger King.  While the
central organization also *sells* the software, it would seem the
individual franchises have quite a bit of choice as to how they actually
run things; and even if the franchises have no official say in the
central organization, they certainly have a considerable amount of
informal pull, just as TV stations do (and the detroit TV market should
be *especially* interesting in the next few months.)

Freenets & grex have a fundementally different attitude towards
accounts.  Freenets allow quite a bit of use of the system without
having a true account on the system, and having a true account means, in
essence, having disk space, a mailbox, and perhaps other special options
(such as shell access).  So, having an account on a freenet is almost
like being a member here on grex - and indeed, on at least some of the
freenets I looked at, you were expected to make a cash donation before
you could get an account.  The details of getting an account varies by
system, but it almost always involves filling out a paper form and
mailing it in via the postal service, followed typically by a months
delay for "processing".  Presumably that processing means, at least,
*they* run whatever account creation software they have (perhaps just
the maker's "adduser" shell script), after doing any other user
validation check that they do (cashing the check?)
andyv
response 8 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 17:45 UTC 1995

Is ther anybody else out there doing the same thing  Grex is?
davel
response 9 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 19:53 UTC 1995

Lots, depending on *which* thing you have in mind.
steve
response 10 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 22:04 UTC 1995

   Not many places have been willing to be as open as Grex is, for
a number of reasons.  Certainly one that comes to mind quickly, is
that a menu based system is much easier to run than a system like
Grex.  More and different things can break here, we offer more things,
and the security issues of Grex are more complex.  So it makes sense
to a lot of people to clamp things down, and have something that is
easier to run.
   The other different with Grex is the culture in Ann Arbor, with
regard to computer conferencing.  Most of the Grex folk reading this
probably haven't used Confer II, which was written by Robert Parnes
starting in April 1975.  Used since then by the University of Michigan
(and other MTS sites in the past), many people around the UM have used
conferencing.  PicoSpan was modeled after it, and was M-Net's main
claim to fame along with the fact that it was one of the first such
open access systems in the world.
   So the crazies in Ann Arbor have a rich tradition to build upon.
This might be the biggest difference between Grex (and M-Net) and
most other systems.
andyv
response 11 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 23:19 UTC 1995

This sounds like the basis of a good story.  Grex is going to try to go
and do what others dread because Grex is the ideal others envisioned but
fell short of pulling off.
steve
response 12 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 01:53 UTC 1995

   ...Stay tuned for the book from Springer Verlag.
pegasus
response 13 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 16:15 UTC 1995

Just a FYI -- An Ann Arbor Internet Council group is being considered and
may be organized soon. I've given Grex contact info to the people
doing it, so they should be in touch soon.

        Pattie
robh
response 14 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 22:15 UTC 1995

Hmm?  What's that about, pegasus?
pegasus
response 15 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 05:29 UTC 1995

Rob,

Not completely sure, but probably pretty close to what the name:
Ann Arbor Internet Council would make it sound like for a n
organization.

        Pattie
remmers
response 16 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 12:41 UTC 1995

Hmm -- haven't heard of it, but the name by itself doesn't tell me much
about its purpose.  If it exists to help businesses access the internet
commercially, for instance, then there's little overlap with grex's
interests.
pegasus
response 17 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 16:23 UTC 1995

John,

You probably haven't heard about it, because its just being developed/
organized. I'm sure someone will be in touch with Grex to let us know when
the first meeting will be.
(Afterall, I gave them several accounts to email here on Grex.)

        Pattie
lilmo
response 18 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 00:56 UTC 1995

The Blacksburg Electronic Village (BEV) mentioned in the article is a plan, at
the beginning of implementation, to link up the entire town of Blacksburg, VA, 
home of Virginia Tech (Hokie!  Hokie!  Hokie, high!  <ahem> Sorry about that)
into the University, as a model of what towns might be like in the future.
Initiating this concept here at the home of Virginia Tech is especially
appropriate, since VT is one of the first universities in the nation to offer
19200 baud internal data service to ALL on-campus rooms, and is also helping to
 sponsor the "Smart Highway" project nearby, hopefully another example of how
technology will change the lives of ppl in the future.
  If this did not interest you, I'm sorry, I just saw my adopted community
mentioned, and felt the need to tout its accomplishments a bit.  :-)
scg
response 19 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 03:37 UTC 1995

I'm assumign the 19.2K hookups were some time ago?  The University of
Michigan has had that to lots of offices and other campus rooms for years,
but it's now being replaced by wiring the entire University with Ethernet,
which is 10 million bps.
steve
response 20 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 22:16 UTC 1995

   Actually, the 'backbone' at the UM is a FDDI ring which is about 122Mbps.
So internal UM communications is pretty fast.
rcurl
response 21 of 22: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 22:50 UTC 1995

When it works......
lilmo
response 22 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 18:01 UTC 1995

Re:#19   It's not to "lots of offices and other campus rooms", but to EVERY
dorm room, and the VAST majority (90+%) of offices.  Some dorm rooms now have
Ethernet instead.
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