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danr
Cyberspace Communications, Inc. Finances through 11/30/94 Mark Unseen   Dec 28 04:35 UTC 1994

Here is the treasurer's report on Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
finances through November 30, 1994.

General Fund
    Beginning Balance   $2439.89
    Credits             $ 930.00  membership dues
                        $1072.50  JCC Sale receipts
                        $  59.00  t-shirt, mug income
    Debits              $-197.00  CE payment
                        $- 25.00  Dungeon rent
                        $- 20.00  Innovative Concepts phone line
                        $-  0.00  bank service charge
                        --------
    Total               $4259.39


Well, the deposits from the October membership donations and the
October JCC sale finally made it into the treasurer's report this
month.  Thanks again to all those who have contributed!!

As always, if you would like to contribute to Grex and become a
member, you can send cash, checks, or money orders to:

    Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
    2113 Arborview Boulevard
    Ann Arbor, MI 48103

Thanks!
49 responses total.
kentn
response 1 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 06:29 UTC 1994

Wow.  What obligations do we have other than the monthly debits?
(I mean like the expenses the board has authorized, like equipment
purchases, reimbursements, etc.).
steve
response 2 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 06:39 UTC 1994

   Well: we have $220 authorized for a {3,4}86 motherboard.
         we have $750 authorized for a tape backup unit.
         we have $ 70 that I spent on the ROM we haven't installed yet.

peacefrg
response 3 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 07:44 UTC 1994

More expensive than I thought. Keep up the good work. I'll try to help
out financially when I can.
davel
response 4 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 17:33 UTC 1994

The upcoming move isn't going to be free, either.
peacefrg
response 5 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 17:43 UTC 1994

Where are you moving too?
chelsea
response 6 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 23:05 UTC 1994

This item has been linked to Co-op.
danr
response 7 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 00:45 UTC 1994

Here are some interesting financial factoids:

We started the year with $1,382.28 in our account. We are going to end the
year with $4,246.60, an increase of $2,864.32.

Total income for the year was $9,808.27.

    Income from membership dues was $5,664 ($472/month). The highest
    month was June when we collected $1,086; the lowest was January with
    only $210.
    
    Income from the disk drive fundraiser was $1,433.57.
    
    Income from JCC sales was $1,916.57.

Total expenses were $6,943.95.

    We spent $2,975.45 on hardware for the system.
    
    We spent $778.21 for mugs and t-shirts.  We collected about the same
    amount (it's hard to tell exactly because some of the t-shirt money
    got mixed in with the proceeds from the last JCC sale).  We still have
    a small inventory of mugs and t-shirts, and whatever we collect from
    that will be all profit.
    

Let the analysis begin. :-)
andyv
response 8 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 02:50 UTC 1994

How much is the move going to cost?
srw
response 9 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 04:01 UTC 1994

We are moving from a Warehouse where a benevolent owner has been letting
us run the system into a basement which we are renting (cheaply).
The basement is on the west side of Ann Arbor, and is affectionately 
called "The Dungeon".

We will have much better climate control, and access to the system
in the new location. Access is the most important consideration.
It will cost us installation charges for phone lines, and there will
be other costs I'm not aware of. I think the phone installatoin is $400,
(for 10 lines).
steve
response 10 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 04:39 UTC 1994

   $420, but whose a 'countin.  I'm sure there will be little odd
details that will eat up a little money (last minute hardware like
screws, etc).
andyv
response 11 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 04:54 UTC 1994

Can we make an account for the move with the projected cost estimate listed
along with the account?  Can we do the same for hardware too so we can get
a better idea of how much money we really have? Then on the same sheet we
should note which items are already board approved and which are being
considered.  Then print it where we can see it and discuss it.
davel
response 12 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 14:41 UTC 1994

(My mentioning the move costs wasn't because they were huge in our current
circumstances, but that they weren't being listed at all.  (How our
circumstances have changed in the last year or two!!))
danr
response 13 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 14:45 UTC 1994

The biggest expense for the move will indeed be the $420 installation
charges for the phone lines.  I expect another $100 or so in miscellan-
eous expenses.

Getting back to the financial factoids, though, I'd like to point out
that membership dues are only 58% of our total income. I think what 
this means is that, barring a major increase in membership, we will
continue to rely on fund-raising, i.e. JCC sales or disk-drive fund-
raisers, to raise money for hardware expansion.
danr
response 14 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 14:51 UTC 1994

re  #12:  You're absolutely right, davel.  Our financial circumstances
have changed dramatically in the last year, and it was opening the 
internet link that really did it for us.  It both attracted folks
from outside the AA area (16 members live elsewhere) and encouraged
people who wanted Internet access to join.
bartlett
response 15 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 03:09 UTC 1994

Did we make enough money to have to pay taxes this year?  If so, we'd
better get that organized.

     Just trying to think ahead,
     Chris

danr
response 16 of 49: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 19:17 UTC 1994

I went over to the IRS today to get some publications and guidance,
but found they were closed.  I suspect we have to file a return, but
shouldn't owe any taxes.
eeyore
response 17 of 49: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 17:09 UTC 1995

well, as soon as i get my act together, i'll send you money for dues...
just to remind me...where do i send them to?
danr
response 18 of 49: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 00:03 UTC 1995

Send dues to:

Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
2113 Arborview Blvd.
Ann Arbor, MI 48103

THANKS!
lilmo
response 19 of 49: Mark Unseen   Jan 28 19:36 UTC 1995

danr, if you haven't already done so, when you go to the IRS, maybe see what
would have to be done to file for 501c3 ??
popcorn
response 20 of 49: Mark Unseen   Jan 28 19:40 UTC 1995

Dan has seen the forms, believe me!
I think Rane has our current copy of the forms.  On the front cover, it
says it should take about 42 hours of work to fill out the forms.
rcurl
response 21 of 49: Mark Unseen   Jan 28 21:47 UTC 1995

Yes, I have the current (revised) forms, and a record of an informal "cut"
through the questions. I haven't filled them out yet. One reason is, its a
pain. Another reason is that it has not been entirely clear that "Grex"
really wants to be a true charitable, non-profit, corporation. I think it
*should* be, but there has been discussion of it becoming a "cooperative"
(which I oppose). So, is the question settled now? 

popcorn
response 22 of 49: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 00:57 UTC 1995

Nope!
popcorn
response 23 of 49: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 00:58 UTC 1995

(If only we could be a charitable, non-profit, co-operative!)
chi1taxi
response 24 of 49: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 02:53 UTC 1995

Co-ops are by definition non-profit.  Despite what was asserted in the
"Should Grex Become a Co-op" Item on coop conf, there is nothing to prevent
co-ops from giving away stuff.  There's no tax deductions, but where are our
motives.  Besides, who itemizes deductions.
Chicago Taxi Willie
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