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danr
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Treasurer's Report Through 9/30/94
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Oct 15 22:28 UTC 1994 |
Here is the treasurer's report on Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
finances through September 30, 1994.
General Fund
Beginning Balance $3251.64
Credits $ 386.00 membership dues
$ 57.63 t-shirt, mug income
Debits $-197.00 CE payment
$- 25.00 Dungeon rent
$- 20.00 Innovative Concepts phone line
$- 4.62 bank service charge
$- 20.00 returned check
$-187.83 t-shirt, mug expenses
$-509.50 memory board
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Total $2731.32 $2721.32
Disk Drive Fund
Beginning Balance $- 64.93
Credits $ 15.50
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Total $- 49.43 $- 49.43
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Ending Balance $2681.89
We had a pretty mediocre month in September. Membership revenue
was a little lower than the last couple of months, and a lot of
people decided not to renew. I'm a little concerned about that,
but not overly concerned. We'll just have to keep an eye on it.
If *YOU* want to support Grex, you can send cash, checks, or money
orders to:
Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
2113 Arborview Boulevard
Ann Arbor, MI 48103
Thanks for your support.
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chelsea
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response 1 of 34:
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Oct 16 13:17 UTC 1994 |
This item has been linked from Agora to Co-op.
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pegasus
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response 2 of 34:
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Oct 16 18:58 UTC 1994 |
Considering the problems grex has had, I'm not at all surprised that
ths month was mediocre, or that some people are declining to renew.
Pattie
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aruba
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response 3 of 34:
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Oct 16 19:41 UTC 1994 |
How come a check bounced?
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kentn
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response 4 of 34:
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Oct 16 22:04 UTC 1994 |
Insufficient funds at the bank, I'd assume...
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rcurl
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response 5 of 34:
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Oct 17 05:40 UTC 1994 |
You are bound to have short-term members. All organizations do: you
get a big splurge in new members...and there naturally follows later
a splure of non-renewals. I would expect this for members that telnet
in from afar, since they have less personal participation (walks,
computer fair, etc). It is certainly something to watch and analyze,
since Grex has shifted into a different mode of operation with internet
access.
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kentn
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response 6 of 34:
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Oct 18 03:16 UTC 1994 |
I'm sure, though, that the disk problems in the last month or so
have convinced a lot of people that Grex is not very reliable and
even though there's a lot of good things about Grex, paying someone
else for more reliable service might be a better deal. Not everyone
feels that way of course, and then there's the "regression toward the
mean" sort of phenomenon.
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rcurl
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response 7 of 34:
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Oct 18 04:05 UTC 1994 |
Right. Besides, anyone looking for just a "deal", should look elsewhere.
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carson
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response 8 of 34:
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Oct 18 04:14 UTC 1994 |
actually, one of the non-renewees that I know isn't happy with the
changes that Grex has undergone in its user base and clientele.
Carson!
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rcurl
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response 9 of 34:
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Oct 18 04:21 UTC 1994 |
Do you have any specifics to convey? All sorts of people have all sorts
of reasons for being happy or unhappy about all sorts of things, but it
is interesting to learn what people think makes them happy or unhappy.
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carson
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response 10 of 34:
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Oct 18 04:50 UTC 1994 |
he's generally dissatisfied with how "trendy" Grex has become. He yearns
for the days when people who logged in generally a) knew what they were
doing, b) were intelligent to talk to and discuss with, and c) knew
something about net etiquitte. I hate to mention his login without
consulting him first. I will say that we'd had long discussions about
whether he should renew or not, and that I couldn't come up with a
good reason why *he* should renew.
when my time is up, I'll be renewing for another year, BTW.
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rcurl
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response 11 of 34:
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Oct 18 05:18 UTC 1994 |
Heh. Gee, I thought *I* was intelligent to talk to, and practiced
netiquette. Oh well, sic transit gloria mundi. What I have noticed
from reasons given for leaving is that they are not likely to be the
real reasons, though of course anyone's reason is real enough to
them.
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zook
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response 12 of 34:
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Oct 18 15:36 UTC 1994 |
Quick question: were one to consider the membership, how full would
one's wallet need to be?
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remmers
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response 13 of 34:
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Oct 18 17:23 UTC 1994 |
$6 per month or $60 per year. You can type "!support" at the next
prompt for full details, including how to pay.
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steve
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response 14 of 34:
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Oct 18 18:20 UTC 1994 |
I'm sorry to hear Caron's friend is already pinging for the good
old days of Grex. Grex's growth has changed things some, but not as
much as I'd thought it would. I still see lots of intellgient
discussions going on. Sure, there are less interesting ones too (from
my point of view) but a) we've always had them, b) who am I to say it
isn't good/intelligent/interesting?
With more people comes more of both the good and the bad. I think
its still fairly easy to focus on the good and mostly ignre what you
find bad.
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popcorn
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response 15 of 34:
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Oct 18 21:14 UTC 1994 |
What STeve said. I think Carson's friend is making much too hasty a
judgement. I'm somewhat sure I know who this is and, if I'm right,
he's talked about his concerns a little. Dunno what to say, except
that I disagree and that I miss his input in the conferences.
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kentn
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response 16 of 34:
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Oct 18 21:32 UTC 1994 |
Hmmm...I *don't* think carson's friend is being hasty at all. If
you know what you like and this ain't it, then there's no reason to
waste further time and money. It's easy to call the people who leave
lamers, but you'd be better off to find out why they left (what
they will tell you and what you can surmise), then either say "we
can live without those people" or work at making Grex better for
"those people".
I don't think you'll ever be able to please everyone, though.
You'll just have to accept that some people won't be satisfied with
change...
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jerryb
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response 17 of 34:
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Oct 19 03:46 UTC 1994 |
Thanks for the prompt. My check is on the way.
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rcurl
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response 18 of 34:
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Oct 19 05:54 UTC 1994 |
Thanks Jerry! Glad to have you part of the problem...er, solution. ;-).
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davel
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response 19 of 34:
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Oct 19 09:54 UTC 1994 |
Re #14: I don't *really* think that the Good Old Days are available on
the internet ...
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kt8k
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response 20 of 34:
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Oct 20 11:02 UTC 1994 |
I will definitely be renewing when the time comes, tho the reliability problem
has been a real pain lately. I have been unable to get in via local dialup
2 mornings per week for the past 4 or 5 weeks straight. That's a bummer
since grexing is something I do every weekday morning over breakfast. I
hope things improve.
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srw
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response 21 of 34:
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Oct 20 13:14 UTC 1994 |
I am optimistic about our chances to move soon and add to our dial hunt group.
We have 5 lines now because 1 modem is dead. We will be back to 6 when that
modem is reset or replaced, and up to 8 after the move when we switch to
Centrex service from Ameritech.
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dadroc
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response 22 of 34:
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Oct 20 14:17 UTC 1994 |
The last few weeks grex has been almost out of touch because of the downtime.
Is there a way we can purchase better software to secure the system better?
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steve
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response 23 of 34:
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Oct 20 14:23 UTC 1994 |
We're going to do a test today that is going to help out a lot
in determining our problem. I'll enter all the details a little
later today.
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kentn
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response 24 of 34:
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Oct 20 15:44 UTC 1994 |
Thanks, STeve.
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