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Grex > Coop6 > #114: New Fairwitness for Co-op |  |
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chelsea
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New Fairwitness for Co-op
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Feb 26 17:35 UTC 1995 |
It's well into my fourth year here as fairwitness of Co-op.
That's about two years longer than I intended to stay. I have
always felt that these caretaker positions should be rotated
some to allow folks who maybe haven't been around from the
beginning a chance to get more involved. So, it's time I
stepped down. I'll stick around until a new co-fw is installed
and the conference is restarted in mid-March.
Tsty is my co-fairwitness here, and should be given the courtesy
of feeling comfortable with anyone being suggested for the postition,
but in the end it should be the conference participants who decide
who Co-op's fairwitnesses should be.
It would also be fair for any candidate to be clear how they'd
handle controversial requests, such as requests to kill items on
demand, link on demand, and whether they'll deliver more of a hands-on
or hands-off style.
One more suggestion - put two new fairwitnesses in for a total of three
fairwitnesses. Often enough things come up where two fairwitnesses
might disagree on how it should go. Tsty and I have been fortunate
enough that we've always be able to work through such differences. But
I could see it as useful to have a third person, a tie-breaker if you
will, to help the process along.
I have enjoyed being a fairwitness and know there are others out there
who will do a splendid job.
So I guess the question I pose to the conference participants is do you
want more than one fairwitness here and if so how many and how should
they be selected?
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lilmo
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response 1 of 56:
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Feb 26 22:33 UTC 1995 |
Being new here, I can't say that I have been able to appreciate ALL your hard
work and effort here, but I *can* say that I appreciate the time and effort
you (pl.) have put in to make this resource available. Thanks.
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popcorn
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response 2 of 56:
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Feb 26 23:30 UTC 1995 |
Ditto -- your work as co-op fair witness is much appreciated here!
(But you broke with a Grexian tradition when you spelled the word
"courtesy" correctly here -- I haven't seen anybody do that in a while!)
Should we start nominating people?
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tsty
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response 3 of 56:
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Feb 28 11:05 UTC 1995 |
this sorta hit me out of the blue - I just read chelsea's email
a few minutes ago. I know I'm going to miss her, she is an excellant
balance for me, such as we are.
This isn't so tough of a job as to necessitate 3 perns though, and
also, with 2 we have had to work things out rather than toss off
a problem as a 2-1 "majority" decision.
/hug chelsea
(tsty hugs chelsea)
Thanxx
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sidhe
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response 4 of 56:
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Feb 28 15:57 UTC 1995 |
Well, *I* volunteer.
As for link-on-request.. if the item has even a smidgen to do with
running grex, why not? As for kill-on-request.. as this is frowned upon
here, in the community-
style cf's, I would be loathe to, and do so only if tsty and I would be able to
agree on it.
Anyone else?
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nephi
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response 5 of 56:
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Mar 2 08:40 UTC 1995 |
I volunteer as well. I'm not so much into linking that I would do it
without talking with TS first. I rather like the way this conference has
been run in the past several months I've been here, and would probably
not change too much. Finally, I think that working with TS would be
rather neat.
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popcorn
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response 6 of 56:
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Mar 2 18:27 UTC 1995 |
Hm. How do we decide whether to go with two new fair witnesses, or
one, and, if only one, which one?
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selena
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response 7 of 56:
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Mar 2 18:53 UTC 1995 |
A vote, of some kind? I'm *not* volunteering.. I don't think you'd
want my brand of temper helping run coop! :}
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chelsea
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response 8 of 56:
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Mar 2 20:09 UTC 1995 |
I'd think it would be up to tsty, at least at this point.
The pool could always be increased if need be.
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nephi
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response 9 of 56:
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Mar 2 22:04 UTC 1995 |
TS, do you think you would like to have us both? Would you like to choose
which one of us to work with? Would you rather submit to a vote?
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tsty
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response 10 of 56:
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Mar 3 08:04 UTC 1995 |
Given some circumstances, if I were not already a fw, I surely
wouldn't be chosen. As a result (just to give perns a hook to
hold onto) I would defer making the choice(s) myself to the board.
I would say the same thing under any circumstance, but having
a cause and effect wrapper available is convenient and I prsume,
non-controversial.
As stated above, though, I think that two, not three fws is the
better way to proceed.
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lilmo
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response 11 of 56:
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Mar 3 19:27 UTC 1995 |
how are FW's normally chosen?
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popcorn
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response 12 of 56:
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Mar 3 19:55 UTC 1995 |
There really isn't any standard way of doing it.
When a conference is started, a lot of the time the person or people
who proposed the conference are the original fair witnesses. When a fair
witness leaves Grex, it often takes a while for people to notice. When
folks notice, usually someone posts an item here in the co-op conference
asking for a new fair witness (check out the item called "New Fair Witness
Needed" in this conference, which scg entered earlier this season).
Sometimes when a fair witness decides to leave, he or she will enter an
item in the conference asking for volunteers to be the new fair witness.
It varies a lot.
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remmers
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response 13 of 56:
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Mar 5 18:34 UTC 1995 |
Whoever becomes fw, I'd like to see the low-key fw'ing style continue.
This has always been a conference where users set the agenda by the
items they enter. The fw's don't have much to do with regard to
guiding the discussions, nor should they.
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tsty
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response 14 of 56:
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Mar 6 08:10 UTC 1995 |
<<is tehre a pern on Earth who could "guide" these discussions??>>
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lilmo
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response 15 of 56:
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Mar 6 22:41 UTC 1995 |
It would require super-human effort
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steve
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response 16 of 56:
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Mar 7 03:19 UTC 1995 |
It would be like herding cats.
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tsty
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response 17 of 56:
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Mar 7 09:31 UTC 1995 |
At least all the cats would be heard from .....
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eeyore
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response 18 of 56:
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Mar 7 15:04 UTC 1995 |
if nominations are open, i will volonteer. if not, i will cheerfully
defer to nephi and sidhe! :)
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nephi
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response 19 of 56:
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Mar 7 15:42 UTC 1995 |
Okay, now there's *three* people to choose from. Are we waiting for
a board vote, or was that a bad idea?
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ajax
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response 20 of 56:
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Mar 7 15:57 UTC 1995 |
How about having the board flip a 3-sided coin at the next meeting (or roll
a die, if none can be found)?
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remmers
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response 21 of 56:
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Mar 7 17:51 UTC 1995 |
A question for the volunteers: How would you approach the job? Would
you do anything differently than it's been done up to now?
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nephi
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response 22 of 56:
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Mar 7 21:48 UTC 1995 |
Hmm . . . I would try to discourage drivel drift with manipulative
conversation techniques (and try to not drivel drift, myself 8*).
I think this conference suffers from very little of that, but I
would hate to see it start.
If I was presented with a problem like Agora Item 32, I would freeze and
retire and ask questions later.
Other than that, I think I would blend into the woodwork very well. I
really like the way this conference is being FWed and would not change
anything that I am now aware of.
Questions?
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eeyore
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response 23 of 56:
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Mar 8 05:08 UTC 1995 |
for the most part, the fw's seem to be standing back, and letting free thought
reign. this is deffinately a theory i agree with for co-op. i never have
been overly fond of drift, and so would try to keep that from being a
problem. for touchy subjects, i would discuss with co-fw's and find out
their opinions on their matter. i would also let the item stay for a day or
two, to see what outside response may be, unless it was really filthy.
however, what may be touchy for me, may not be for others.
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sidhe
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response 24 of 56:
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Mar 9 19:35 UTC 1995 |
I find that drift can be healthy, as it can eventually bring about
an aspect of the topic not otherwise thought about.
As this is not a "safe-zone" I would not consider killing an item,
unless, tsty and I could agree it would be best to do so.
As for problem items, that truly are beyond hope of ignoring, then
I would most certainly make the effort to contact tsty with what problem
I have with it. Again, and even in this, if there is no agreement, it would be
left alone.
My purpose is to make certain a cf as huge as this doesn't get left
entirely alone for too long- a FW should be on the scene quickly if a
problem does present itself.
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