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carson
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Marvel gives up
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Dec 9 09:03 UTC 1995 |
I'd say it ain't so, but, alas, it is. Marvel is outsourcing their
characters. Who's going where keeps changing, but Extreme (Rob Liefeld),
Wildstorm (Jim Lee), and Topps (Jim Salicrup) have been rumored to be
seeking some of the characters. I'll try to keep ya'll up-to-date.
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carson
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response 1 of 95:
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Dec 9 09:39 UTC 1995 |
Tenative info:
Fantastic Four, Avengers, Captain America, and Thor are going to Extreme/
Wildstorm. Hulk will likely be cancelled should this happen. Marvel
considered shipping the Spidey titles to Topps (once upon a time, Jim
Salicrup was the editor of the Spidey line, and the comics were *readable*
then), but it seems they won't after all.
Nothing has been confirmed as final, yet.
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robh
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response 2 of 95:
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Dec 9 14:11 UTC 1995 |
<robh's jaw hits the floor>
I would never have expected this. I mean, I knew Marvel was in
trouble, but selling of the characters?
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carson
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response 3 of 95:
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Dec 9 23:36 UTC 1995 |
It's not so much that Marvel is in trouble. The company is still making
a profit, but, as stock prices are falling, the profit isn't enough.
Are you aware of the reputation of the person who holds most of Marvel's
stock as a corporate raider? Buy a healthy company, leave it a husk.
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carson
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response 4 of 95:
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Dec 16 17:55 UTC 1995 |
The press conference was Thursday...
Details, you say? I'll give you details...
Wildstorm gets Iron Man and Fantastic Four. Extreme gets Captain America
and the Avengers. Both Jim Lee and Rob Leifeld agree to pencil the first
six issues they do of one of the two titles they get. It's expected to
be the Fantastic Four and Captain America, respectively. Thor is
cancelled, but Hulk *isn't*. Apprently a "Hulk SMASH" version of the
Hulk will appear in the Image books, but Marvel will continue to publish
Peter David's version of the character.
Bob Harras, Marvel's new EIC, hinted at more deals like this coming up
in the next few months.
(I also have a press release relating to the Marvel/DC titles to
be released after Marvel vs. DC #3, but I have to find it. :) )
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robh
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response 5 of 95:
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Dec 16 22:57 UTC 1995 |
I assume Marvel is holding onto its Mutant titles like grim death?
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bruin
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response 6 of 95:
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Dec 17 02:31 UTC 1995 |
Also, what is the status of the Nickelodeon cartoons (i.e. Ren and Stimpy)
with regards to comic book licensing?
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carson
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response 7 of 95:
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Dec 17 20:08 UTC 1995 |
I don't think that Marvel is going to give up its cash cows
anytime soon. That would include the X-Men and Spiderman titles
as those are featured weekly on Saturday morning and also sell
incredible amounts of toys. I'd bet it'd also include such licensed
properties as Barbie, Ren & Stimpy, and the Disney license.
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steve
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response 8 of 95:
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Jan 7 04:19 UTC 1996 |
Well, this is new and bizarre. Marvel is making money, yet it's
being literally raided?
What is Wildstorm? I'm really out of the comic scene at the
moment.
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carson
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response 9 of 95:
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Jan 7 04:50 UTC 1996 |
Wildstorm is the company run by Jim Lee. His first comic story was
the second half of a Solo Avengers book. I forget if it's #1 or
#2. Lee really began to blossom under the tutelage of Carl Potts
while working on the first issues of the Punisher's War Journal
title, eventually handling all the art chores himself. He broke
out after being put on the regular X-Men title. At one point, his
X-Men #1 (new series) was the best-selling American comic in
modern times (post-_Seduction Of The Innocent_).
I forget the year, but seven of Marvel's most popular artists, Lee
being one of them, left the company to begin their own company, Image,
which has risen to take the #3 spot among American comic publishers
and has changed the entire industry, shifting it from the "Big Two"
scenario that existed previously.
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carson
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response 10 of 95:
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Jan 31 01:45 UTC 1996 |
New info:
Chuck Dixon has agreed to write the Image issues of Captain America. As
I announced earlier, Liefeld will draw the first six issues, after which
Dixon assumes "complete control."
While Jim Lee will draw the first six issues of Fantastic Four, a surprise
artist will be drawing Iron Man. Whilce Portacio, who gained fame on such
titles as Punisher and X-Men before leaving to form Image will return to
comics to draw the Iron Man series.
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steve
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response 11 of 95:
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Mar 10 22:51 UTC 1996 |
Can someone come up with a list of who owns what, now?
Or point me to something that explains it all?
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carson
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response 12 of 95:
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Mar 15 13:18 UTC 1996 |
wish I could, but everything's a mess. If I find something, I'll
post it.
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pezimist
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response 13 of 95:
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Jun 1 23:23 UTC 1996 |
i don't think any characters are owned by different companies now. They were
just using image's creative teams on Marvel books.
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biohazar
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response 14 of 95:
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Jun 23 14:30 UTC 1996 |
Okay, Extreme and Wildstorm (or Image) are not putting out these books, They
will still be owned and published by Marvel. Jim Lee and Rob Liefield will
go on these book as creative directors. They'll deside who will write and draw
the book as well as the story plot outline (in total there are four Image
founders going back with Wilce Portacio and Jim Valineto working on the
project). These books are going to be the outcome of the Onslaut crossover
where the characters will go into another demension and forget who they are
(or something like that). Each of the books will start with #1. After the 12
issues, the books creative control will return to Marvel. Also, there will
be severial Image Marvel Crossovers including Spider-Man/Backlash,
Spider-Man/Badrock, Wolverine/Deathblow, Wolverine/Badrock, Cable/Prophet,
X-Force/Youngblood, and maybe Gen 13/Generation X.
As for my opinion on this, I don't like it. Have they forgotten why they left
in the first place?
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biohazar
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response 15 of 95:
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Jun 26 09:40 UTC 1996 |
*Dixon is out, Loeb is in! X-Force writer Jeph Loeb has replaced Chuck Dixon
on Rob Liefeld's Captain America. More info to come.
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biohazar
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response 16 of 95:
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Jul 3 23:56 UTC 1996 |
two things:
There will be two Hulks and two Thors. As said before, the dumb green Hulk
will be a part of the "Heroes Reborn"while the normal Hulk that you've been
reading will be written by Peter David. Thor will also be apart of the "Heroes
Reborn", but there will be also a Tales of Asguard book coming out soon.
To add to the crossover list... Some time in 97 Jim Lee's WildCATs will
be teaming up with X-men in a four issue mini-series. Scott Lobdell will most
likely write the story and Marvel and WildStorm will each produce two of the
books to the crossover. There will also be a Gen 13/Generation X crossover
too (but even less details are known). More to come, of course.
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pez
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response 17 of 95:
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Jul 4 00:24 UTC 1996 |
i heard about a Star Trek/X-Men crossover.. that would suck.
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bio
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response 18 of 95:
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Sep 17 04:13 UTC 1996 |
Jim Valineto has filled a lawsuit against Rob Liefield... so most likely he
wouldn't be writing Avengers after all. Lets see if Rob can get this book out
on time, or else Marvel will kick him out so fast his butt will leave scid
marks. (notice how I like to make fun of Rob?)
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bio
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response 19 of 95:
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Sep 30 05:47 UTC 1996 |
A fax came in from Marvel that said Jim Valentino's departure from the
writting chores on Avengers should have no impact on the book coming out on
schedule. No info yet on who is replacing him.
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biohazar
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response 20 of 95:
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Dec 6 09:30 UTC 1996 |
I still don't have any compfermation other then the e-mail I got that says
if Rob is still at Marvel or not. What issue are we at on Captain America and
Avengers?
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pez
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response 21 of 95:
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Dec 6 21:00 UTC 1996 |
i think the #3's are out..
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biohazar
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response 22 of 95:
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Dec 7 03:24 UTC 1996 |
according to my e-mail I got, It said that Rob's last issue was going to be
issue #3... So was the e-mail a fake? (I hope not!)
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pez
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response 23 of 95:
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Dec 7 21:53 UTC 1996 |
i wouldn't mind at all if Liefield got kicked off the Heroes Reborn books..
He sucks.
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biohazar
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response 24 of 95:
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Dec 8 02:10 UTC 1996 |
Amen!
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