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keesan
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Non-classical music for people who like classical music - suggestions please
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Dec 6 18:31 UTC 1998 |
Can anyone suggest genres of recently-composed music that people who only
listen to classical and a bit of ethnic folk music might enjoy? And/or list
the different genres of nonclassical music currently being listened to, with
a brief characterization of them - types of instruments, harmony, rhythm,
subject matter if vocal, history. I would appreciate having this item linked
to music. We are pretty ignorant and expect that there is some music out
there we would like, but don't know where to look for it (not on KOOL 107!).
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remmers
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response 1 of 122:
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Dec 7 10:29 UTC 1998 |
(Did you intend to post this in the Houseplants and Gardens
conference?)
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keesan
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response 2 of 122:
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Dec 9 04:15 UTC 1998 |
No, of course not, I wondered where it had gone. How to erase it here?
Kill 37 - 'you can't do that!'.
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krj
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response 3 of 122:
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Dec 9 07:57 UTC 1998 |
(( Gardening #37 :) now linked as Music #161. ))
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krj
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response 4 of 122:
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Dec 9 10:00 UTC 1998 |
My first inclination is to point you at some of the recent deluge of
Celtic folk albums, and some of the more acoustic side of the Scandinavian
stuff. I'm guessing that Hedningarna and Hoven Droven are probably more
rock-influenced for your tastes, but you might like the Swedish band
Vasen (all instrumental, heavy on the fiddles) or Triakel (mostly
harmonium and voice).
To try out some Irish and Scottish music for free, listen to the
Thistle and Shamrock program on NPR. WUOM in Ann Arbor has picked
it up recently, but I forget when they are airing it.
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krj
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response 5 of 122:
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Dec 9 10:06 UTC 1998 |
Ah, apparently I linked too soon. keesan started another copy of this
item, which is now music #162, after losing this one. I'm going to
freeze this. I hope.
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krj
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response 6 of 122:
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Dec 9 10:08 UTC 1998 |
And apparently now that it is linked, I can't freeze/retire it,,
and 'unlink' isn't a legal command. Help...
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md
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response 7 of 122:
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Dec 9 11:49 UTC 1998 |
Okay, here's a copy of the (my) one response to the item in the
Classical Music cf. I will now kill the item in that conference
and then there'll only be this item in Houseplants and Music.
*Or will there*?
#1 of 2 by Michael Delizia (md) on Sun Dec 6 22:40:55 1998:
Well, I love classical music. The non-classical music I currently
listen to includes:
Grover Washington Junior: Reed Seed. An album dating from around 1980.
Jazz, saxophones, small ensemble, very cool.
The Byrds: The Byrds' Greatest Hits. 1960s folk rock. Now-legendary
covers of a couple of Bob Dylan songs included.
The Rolling Stones: Beggars Banquet. Album dating from around 1970.
Includes three of the greatest rock 'n' roll songs of all time:
Sympathy for the Devil, Street-Fighting Man, and Stray Cat Blues.
Lauryn Hill: The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. Recent release.
Female member of The Fugees solo album. Brainy rap, as rap goes.
Various artists: Rain Forest. A compliation of songs by performers
from tropical areas of the planet. Sold at Caribou Coffee as promo
for their new "Rainforest Blend." I bought it on a whim and got
hooked on the very first track, a song by an African group so upbeat
it makes the Spice Girls sound like Rachmaninov.
Various Artists: Swing Time. Another promo album, I picked it up
at Bed Bath & Beyond. Glen Miller, Benny Goodman, et al. My
favorite is "Leap Frog" by Les Brown and his Band of Reknown. The
reason I bought this was for a dance at the local highschool, where
swing music and swing dancing have inexplicably come into vogue.
I almost didn't get it back.
That's it currently. A few months ago it would've been all different.
I don't think the above have much in common. I don't think there is
necessarily one kind of non-classical music that's more likely to
appeal to classical music lovers than another kind.
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md
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response 8 of 122:
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Dec 9 11:55 UTC 1998 |
Okay, it's gone from the Classical Music cf, but it still exists
here as Item 162. It should be killed before someone else responds
to it. Hurry!
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krj
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response 9 of 122:
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Dec 9 16:56 UTC 1998 |
I retired the copy which was item #162 in Music. Now, if md can link this back
to classicalmusic, then I think we will have what keesan originally intended.
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keesan
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Dec 9 20:02 UTC 1998 |
Thanks to both of you for your efforts, what I was hoping to end up with was
an item in Classicalmusic which was linked to Music, is that what we ended
up with? How does one retire a copy, I need to do that to some listings in
Classifieds that sold (or went into the dumpster).
Next time I go to the library I will look for your suggestions on CD.
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md
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response 11 of 122:
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Dec 9 20:35 UTC 1998 |
This is now linked to Classical as Item 42.
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krj
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response 12 of 122:
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Dec 9 20:53 UTC 1998 |
Sindi, I'll pull together some CDs to loan to you, if you'd like.
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keesan
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response 13 of 122:
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Dec 10 02:02 UTC 1998 |
That is awfully nice of you, but maybe the library also has them, let me know
a few suggested titles to look for. I went to Scandinavian dancing for a
while and like the fiddle music, but am curious as to what good new music is
around that is not designed mainly to be loud, or too easy listening.
I have heard some interesting stuff on the Ypsi station, recently composed
in the style of Indian classical music, by Germans.
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davel
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response 14 of 122:
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Dec 10 03:48 UTC 1998 |
Sindi, I play (a bit of) hammered dulcimer, so I'm seeing quite a lot
of stuff built around that; & there are a lot of people out there with
recordings you might like. The largest bulk falls into traditional &
modern folk genres, but there's a fair amount of classical- based stuff
that I (at least) enjoy. (Some of this is commercially available;
a lot is more-or-less self-distributed.)
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keesan
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response 15 of 122:
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Dec 11 20:02 UTC 1998 |
I liked Bolling's classical jazz. Where would I look for other
classical-based stuff for other instruments? Are there particular composers
to look for? I will check the library's folk section.
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e4808mc
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response 16 of 122:
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Dec 11 22:08 UTC 1998 |
Oops. Someone linked it again before it got killed in Plants.
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orinoco
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response 17 of 122:
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Dec 11 22:22 UTC 1998 |
Another direction to look in... there's a decent number of bands with a big
big classical influence who often get lumped into the Goth category for some
reason, probably 'cause nobody knows where to put them. Off the top of my head
I'm thinking of Dead Can Dance and Never The Bride, and maybe Rasputina.
Dead Can Dance has influences from all over the place; mostly ethnic folk and
medaeval music is what it sounds like to me. I haven't heard very much Never
The Bride, but what I've heard sounds pretty classical - Piano, vocals, and
cello.
I honestly don't know whether you'd like Rasputina or not, but I have to plug
them 'cause they're one of my favorite bands right now. They're an electric
cello trio, and their sound drifts quite a bit - their first album, _Thanks
For the Ether_ was more acoustic, and their second, _How We Quit the Forest_
is much 'harder' and more electric-sounding. They also act more like a typical
Goth band, and can be a little offensive at times, but... okay, I'm just going
to stop making disclaimers. They're really, really good, and with a distinct
classical influence, and...yeah. Listen to _Thanks For the Ether_, I'm
guessing you'll like it.
I'll ask Liza the Resident Goth Expert for some more reccomendations.
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keesan
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response 18 of 122:
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Dec 12 01:04 UTC 1998 |
Thanks again, can you define what Goth music is, if that is possible? I had
not heard of it until now.
I find that the New Age music played just before midnight on the radio
puts me to sleep (is that intentional)? It all seems rather repetitious, but
is some of it better than other parts? Our neighbor has been trying to point
out why some jazz is better than others.
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davel
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response 19 of 122:
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Dec 12 13:32 UTC 1998 |
Some of it is indeed quite good, but ... most of it puts me to sleep, too.
Possibly it's no accident that they play it late at night.
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cloud
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response 20 of 122:
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Dec 13 05:20 UTC 1998 |
Some jazz is better than others. Simply put, almost any jazz is better than
Kenny G... At least, that's my not-so-humble opinion.
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keesan
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response 21 of 122:
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Dec 13 14:09 UTC 1998 |
My neighbor has the same opinion of Kenny G, who I only heard of because we
were given a free copy of him at Kiwanis, which we use to test CD players,
and then someone who bought a player said he was her favorite. He apparently
sings one note for 45 minutes (a bit boring in my opinion). Can you recommend
any good jazz music that is less random-sounding than average?
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orinoco
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response 22 of 122:
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Dec 14 02:28 UTC 1998 |
Re defining goth: I was afraid you were going to ask something like that:)
The only thing goth bands really have in common with each other is their
generally dark mood. The bands I reccomended in #17 are all an etheral, kinda'
melancholy sort of dark. There are also goth bands who are loud, angry, and
obnoxious sorts of dark. It really depends.
Meaning "go get some goth music" was probably not a good reccomendation. :)
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mcnally
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response 23 of 122:
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Dec 14 17:39 UTC 1998 |
No, but the pointer to Dead Can Dance was probably a good one..
Perhaps Cocteau Twins might also fit the bill -- I'm trying to think
of music that's lush, layered, and atmospheric..
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keesan
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response 24 of 122:
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Dec 14 18:05 UTC 1998 |
Would Borders have anything in this category that I could listen to?
I should go take a look, with a list of the above suggestions.
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