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xanthus
TITANIC the Queen of the Oscars? Mark Unseen   Mar 24 18:28 UTC 1998

So, the Oscars are over, and Titanic has tied Ben-Hur for the most Oscar wins.
Did they deserve more? Were Kate Winslet and the come-back lady Gloria Stuart
shafted? Should Leo have been nominated? Or did this film get more than it
deserved to begin with?

My opinion: I'm happy that Kim Bassinger has finally won something. She's
overcome a lot of personal demons on her road to the podium last night. Gloria
Stuart, while she was charming, just wasn't given enough to work with. But
she did great with what she had, you could still see her love for Jack in her
eyes after all those years. I was ecstatic when Robin Williams nabbed best
supporting actor. He's done some great work over the years, he's not *all*
about comedy. Congrats to him. Jack Nicholson definately deserves to be in
the elite 3+ Oscar group, and Helen Hunt's win was I think fairly expected.
I didn't see As Good as it Gets so I can't rate her performance. Titanic won
in nearly every technical category except make-up. Overall, I beleive Titanic
deserved each and every award it got. So many people worked incredibly hard
for a LONG LONG time to make this sinking as authentic and terrifyingly real
as possible. And a hip-hip-hooray to Celine Dion for her excellent on-stage
performance of her song. She looks great in that necklace. ;)

Now let's hear your opinion....
56 responses total.
carson
response 1 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 24 19:47 UTC 1998

(I wasn't disappointed with the awards that I'm aware of. certainly, 
Cameron deserved Best Director, and I'm glad that _Good Will Hunting_
took Best Screenplay, with Robin Williams taking Best Supporting Actor.
I haven't yet seen either _L.A. Confidential_ or _As Good As It Gets_,
but I certainly wouldn't doubt that Basinger, Hunt, and Nicholson earned
the awards they received.)
eeyore
response 2 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 24 21:00 UTC 1998

I thought that James Cameron was a horses patoot for the speech that he gave
for best producer...Rub noses, why don't you! I didn't want to see the other
one.
dang
response 3 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 24 22:51 UTC 1998

I thought Hunt most definately deserved hers for best actress.  I haven't seen
Titanic, and have no intention of seeing it at least until it goes to the
cheap theater, so I can't say as to it.  I doubt I'll agree with best picture.
The technical ones I'll probably agree with.
scg
response 4 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 24 23:27 UTC 1998

I didn't see many of the others, but I was in awe of Titanic for a few days
after seeing it.  It was amazing, and I think it deserved the awards it got.
Dan -- definitely see it in a theater, rather than waiting for video.  It was
the sort of move that really benifited from the big screen.

Meg -- what was it in Cameron's speech that you objected to?  I'm wondering
if I missed something.  It didn't strike me as too different from most of the
other speeches.
mcnally
response 5 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 24 23:27 UTC 1998

  I'm pleased to see that my cynical Oscar picks (in Winter Agora)
  were only 50% correct..  Considering I had only seen one of the
  movies ("L.A. Confidential"), though, I still think that the
  awards say a lot more about the people doing the picking than
  they do about the movies that win or lose.
md
response 6 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 00:16 UTC 1998

After Jennifer Lopez made her presentation everything was a blur.
xanthus
response 7 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 03:20 UTC 1998

Was that in the third hour? heh...

BTW, Billy Crystal stated in the beginning how they were trying to cut down
on the length of the awards. At 3 hours and 42 minutes, it was the longest
Oscars yet. Good job at speeding things up, guys! =P
carson
response 8 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 04:46 UTC 1998

(was he kidding?)
senna
response 9 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 05:32 UTC 1998

Second longest.  The longest was three minutes longer.

I was rather happy with the Oscars.  Movies like Titanic don't just happen
every year, and I think that it deserved everything it got (I would have liked
to see it get the acting Oscars, but the acting wasn't earth-shattering). 
Granted, a lot of the awards were minor awards that the academy handed to it
on a silver platter, but it was still nice.  Titanic, like it or not, is the
pre-eminent movie of the past two or three years, at the very least, probably
dating back to Schindler's list.  The Oscars reflect that.

Billy Crystal was hilarious in the opening of the show, which makes me glad
I taped it.  Unfortunately, scheduling difficulties forced him to clam up for
the rest of the program to allow for them to fit everything.  The lifetime
achievement acceptance was delightful.  I enjoyed the fact that some of the
presenters and acceptors actually decided to be amusing, too.  
wjw
response 10 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 21:12 UTC 1998

I agree, Titanic deserved best picture and the oscars it got, but
Kate Winslett and Gloria Stuart did not deserve oscars.  This is and
accurate picture... Titanic is a great movie but not because
of the performances of the stars... they did an adequate job, but
they are not the reason for the film's greatness.
remmers
response 11 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 01:12 UTC 1998

For me, the highlight of the ceremonies was Stanley Donen's
song-and-dance acceptance of the Life-Achievement award. It's
nice to see someone as old as he must be (Donen started
directing movies about 50 years ago) doing so well.

As to the awards themselves, I can't say I cared a lot about
who won. With the exception of Best Supporting Actor, where I
was rooting for Robert Forster. (He didn't win.)
ric
response 12 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 04:41 UTC 1998

As I've mentioned on M-Net, I'm in love with Kate Winslet.

No, she's no great actress, and I don't even think she deserved a nomination,
but damn I'm glad she was there!  WOW!  I don't think that dress could've been
any tighter. :)

Congrats definately to Robin Williams for his first Oscar.
mag
response 13 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 05:17 UTC 1998

Hehe Kate's got her own funky style...gotta love her for it:)
eeyore
response 14 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 05:31 UTC 1998

I loved her dress. :)

Steve: I objected to two of Cameron's comments
"I am King of the World!!!"
"Everybvody else that I would like to thank have been nominated for or already
recieved their Oscars..."

I loved Stanley Donen...Like remmers, I liked seeing him doing so well, he
amused me bercaus he seemed to be a real person on the stage.  :)

I love seeing people getting giddy for their awards...Robin Williams deserved
his, and it was great to see him so excited about it.  Also Ben Afleck and
Matt Damon, the young guys....I thought that it was great that they got that
award!!!  :)
scg
response 15 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 06:35 UTC 1998

I thought those comments from Cameron were funny, in context.  Out of context,
they do look snobbish, to say the least.  He did thank a long string of people
before he got to the line about everybody else he wanted to thank.
giry
response 16 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 19:03 UTC 1998

        agora 26 <-> cinema 19
senna
response 17 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 04:56 UTC 1998

What's objectionable about saying everything else you can think of thanking
had been nominated or accepted already?  Cameron was right... all his
associates in making the film had essentially either already been thanked or
had been nominated and/or given oscars.  Didn't bother me.  (And I think the
"King of the World" was something of an amusing joke)

Whatever, though.  When I was referring to the acceptance speech, I meant
Donan's, which was definitely the highlight of the evening for everyone in
my family.
remmers
response 18 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 12:50 UTC 1998

In case folks are not familiar with who Stanley Donen is, he is
best known as the director or co-director (usually with Gene Kelly)
of several of the classic Hollywood musicals: "On the Town",
"Singin' in the Rain", "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers",
"It's Always Fair Weather", "Funny Face", "The Pajama Game", and
"Damn Yankees".
djf
response 19 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 16:23 UTC 1998

He also did movies like "Charade" which was a comic/thriller/mystery
type thing.  Detroit PBS (56) showed it a month or so ago on their
classic movie show.  It was a little cheesy by today's standards, but
very entertaining.  With Cary Grant, Audrey Hepburn, Walter Matthau
and James Coburn you can't go too wrong.

tpryan
response 20 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 01:54 UTC 1998

        I thought the "king of the world" comment was also a 
famous line in his movie.  Looks like I need to get to Titanic.
        James Cameron won Oscar for Titanic.
        Titanic was about being in water.
        James Cameron also directed Abbys, also about being in water.
        So, coming soon to a theature near you:  "Son of Abbys".
senna
response 21 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 05:36 UTC 1998

It was in the movie.  Fairly well joked about, too, which is why I think he
did it.
scott
response 22 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 13:03 UTC 1998

(The Name Spelling Police [NSP] finally manage to pull tpryan over)

The correct name spellings:
"Abbyss" , not "Abbys"
"Fibber McGee", not "Fiber McGey" (this one calls for a court appearance ;)
scott
response 23 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 13:04 UTC 1998

(The officer himself gets a deparmental reprimand for spelling "abyss" wrong)
bwings
response 24 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 19:58 UTC 1998

after a month in theaters...i've finally find time to watch it and i' may say
its woth it...although the price did not change...two thumbs up to titanic...
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