(blowjobs: politics and etiquette)

Sep 13 23:32 UTC 2002

(flem indicated that he disagreed with some assertions I'd made in
item:40,resp:307.  since it was a generally disagreeable response, I'm
curious about how much of it he disagreed.  comments from the peanut
gallery are also welcomed.)

response 2 of 55:

Sep 13 23:46 UTC 2002

(since I scratched it from the other item, here's the response in
question):


(I should pribly keep my mouth shut, but...)

(Greg, while it's admirable that you appreciate a woman with a pretty
face, it disturbs me that you "want a decent vista" when she's "servicing"
you.)

(now, while I can't speak from personal experience, I'm willing to believe
that having the meat ship sailing the northern waters can be one of the
greatest life experiences a man can have.  to each their own, I say.  BUT,
the pleasure of that experience is predicated on the fact that you're NOT
looking into her face.  if your eyes are closed and you're fantasizing,
it's a blowjob.  if you're looking into her face, it becomes a person with
your dick in her mouth, and THAT'S creepy.  one look in her eyes, and the
moment is lost.  you're stuck thinking about her insecurities, her
screwed-up life that led her to that point, etc.  that's what eye contact
is:  an intimate connection at a level that you *don't* want when you're
having the chestnut tree tapped for sap.) 

(you may now return to your HotOrNot item, because you NEED it.)

---

(phenix slipped.)

response 4 of 55:

Sep 14 00:45 UTC 2002

Ditto. If one sees a blowjob as something to be given by a slut with no
other value in your life, then I suppose keeping your eyes closed would be
essential. However, if it's from someone you care about, how in the world
can eye contact be bad? I can say from experience that eye contact has
never hindered *my* pleasure. If someone is "stuck thinking about her
insecurities, her screwed-up life that led her to that point, etc." then I
think that's a telling statement about the person making that observation. 

response 6 of 55:

Sep 14 10:21 UTC 2002

they are like hammers. don't drop them on your toes!

response 8 of 55:

Sep 14 15:24 UTC 2002

(wow, you guys are *way* too serious!)

(my response above about watching blowjobs is a rip-off of a Joe Rogan
routine. it was mostly intended to poke fun at phenix, but flem seemed
like he had some thoughts about it [and behind every {quality} humor bit,
there's some truth], hence the item.  frankly, I don't have an opinion
about whether I should look or not.) 

(I guess I'll have to mark future attempts at humor with big blinking
signs for the M-Netters.  has cyklone quoted this item over there yet?) ;)

response 10 of 55:

Sep 14 18:29 UTC 2002

(ew.  point taken.)

(I admit to a certain amount of relief that I won't have to show up on
your doorstep with a female coed and make you watch me watch me engage in
fellatio, just to see if I peek.)  ;)

response 12 of 55:

Sep 15 02:21 UTC 2002

I don't think I've ever made eye contact with the guy.  I usually close my
eyes so I can simply think about what I'm doing.  *Sometimes* I'll peek to
see what his facial expression is, but his eyes are almost always shut.

response 14 of 55:

Sep 15 17:41 UTC 2002

<smirk>  I've done that.  Fortunately, the response was good, mostly because
he knew I'd never actually bite down.

response 16 of 55:

Sep 16 02:49 UTC 2002

kick bottles for milk

response 18 of 55:

Sep 16 10:09 UTC 2002

I would tend to think eye contact is an okay thing for the visually oriented.
Nothing wrong with alternating eyes open and shut, either.

response 20 of 55:

Sep 16 13:39 UTC 2002

        Afterthought:  constant eye contact would be CREEPY.

response 22 of 55:

Sep 16 19:01 UTC 2002

for the record, since carson seems curious, any thoughtfulness I may have
implied in my disagreement with his post has been fairly well addressed by
previous comments.  Mainly, that I sometimes like to watch when receiving a
blowjob.  Not always, since I agree that very different experiences result 
from watching vs. not watching, and both experiences are, IMO, worth 
experiencing.  

A couple of other random comments for the record, since I find myself on my 
horse:
  - who says humor and serious discussion are disjunct?
  - I'm a firm believer in the "painfully earnest" school of Grex dialogue, 
    though IMO the painful part is, as it were, in the eye of the beholder.  
  - phenix' opinion loses all kinds of respect from me when he says emma from 
    caoine.org is "only ok".  

response 24 of 55:

Sep 16 20:14 UTC 2002

clairification, i've shagged prettier.