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mcpoz
Automotive "goofs" and "goodies" Mark Unseen   Jul 4 12:34 UTC 1996

What do you think the major "goofs" and "goodies" are for the various auto
companies world-wide.  I'll start things off with a few entries.
46 responses total.
mcpoz
response 1 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 4 12:36 UTC 1996

Cadillac's 4-6-8 engine (was supposed to run on 4,6, or 8 cylinders, depending
upon the power needed.
mcpoz
response 2 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 4 12:36 UTC 1996

Oops, I screwed up the initial entry:  That should have been titled "Goof"
mcpoz
response 3 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 4 12:39 UTC 1996

Goody:  Chrysler's introduction of the mini-van.
bruin
response 4 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 4 17:29 UTC 1996

Goof: The Edsel (soitinley!)
n8nxf
response 5 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 4 21:07 UTC 1996

Goof:  The invention of the automobile and our increasing dependancy on it.
scott
response 6 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 23:59 UTC 1996

Goof:  The massive popularity of gas-sucking Sport Utility Vehicles... what
do you suppose the OPEC folks are thinking right now?
mcpoz
response 7 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 01:36 UTC 1996

Goody:  Automatic Overdrive transmissions introduced by ? ? ? 
bruin
response 8 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 02:20 UTC 1996

Goof: The protruding beak nose on 1970-71 T-Bird, 1992-95 Buick Skylark, and
possibly other models.
scott
response 9 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 14:50 UTC 1996

Goodie:  The Nissan "NAPS-Z" engine, a straight 4 cylinder with high
compression and *two* spark plugs per cylinder - pretty efficient, never fails
to start quickly in even the coldest weather (my experience with a 10 year
old model).
void
response 10 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 16:46 UTC 1996

   goody: any in-line engine (the amc 258 straight-six being a personal
favorite).

   goof: unibodies. 

   re #6: i think the massive popularity of those big vehicles has to do with
the fact that most of them are *not* unibodies, and therefore are less likely
to be totaled (or allow their passengers to be totaled) in an accident.
mcpoz
response 11 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 22:05 UTC 1996

Goodie:  elimination of leaded fuel and the resultant gain in the environment
(even though it is tough on valves).
n8nxf
response 12 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 8 13:47 UTC 1996

Goodie:  The increased effectiveness and reliability of emission control
devices used in automobiles in the last 15 or so years.
 
Badie:  Road salt.
 
Goodie: SUV's that like to tip over on their side due to their mass, high
CG and their haven't got a clue drivers.  (BTW, having had unibody cars for
the last 20 years, I prefer unibodies, accidents included.)
void
response 13 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 10:59 UTC 1996

   well, everyone has their preferences. having driven around 500,000 miles
in everything from a geo spectrum to a peterbilt, i'd much rather have
something with a frame in it than folded sheet metal.
n8nxf
response 14 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 11:57 UTC 1996

(Biggest cars I've driven were '70s era Buick Electra 225 and Olds Tornado.
Either of those or a Spectrum, against a Peterbuilt would be sPLat!)
 
Goodie: Radial tires.  Last longer, better mileage and safer.

Goodie: Regenerative braking.  Reuse some of the enery usually given off
        as heat while stopping.
void
response 15 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 18:52 UTC 1996

   goof: computerized engines. they're getting so complicated that dealerships
can't even fix 'em right.
bruin
response 16 of 46: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 19:56 UTC 1996

Goof & Goody (depending on your point of view):

1963 Split Window Corvette Sting Ray

Goof - because of the extraordinarily large blind spot

Goody - because of the collectors' value of the 1963 split window models.
mjh16886
response 17 of 46: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 02:30 UTC 1997

Goof!! Them gas guzzling boats of the early '70s
Goody!! Early '80s styles
Goody!! The old reliable high performance V-8
Real goofup!!! Geo Metro, Yugo, and just about every single shit shaker
compact car around. Even my Buick Riv can splat one of them little cars like
a foot on a cockroach. Safety is a BIG issue for me.
mjh16886
response 18 of 46: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 02:34 UTC 1997

and by the way. emission controls are a real goody for the earth (although
a bit frustrating)
another goody is a well maintained, well built, and quick car (in any year,
shape and creed)
bruin
response 19 of 46: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 14:15 UTC 1997

Goof - Ford Festiva (which looks more like a Little Tikes "Cozy Coupe" than
a real car).

Forgive me, Rob Henderson, for knocking your basic means of transportation.
void
response 20 of 46: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 04:07 UTC 1997

   goof: gm's cessation of production of full-size, rwd passenger cars.
kentn
response 21 of 46: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 08:14 UTC 1997

Full-size = "boat" right?  So is it a goof or not?
void
response 22 of 46: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 23:06 UTC 1997

   personally, i think it's a goof. by discontinuing production of full-size
rwd passenger cars, gm has handed ford a fleet car monopoly. then again, i'm
a cabdriver and i vastly prefer chevy caprices over ford crown victorias. i'll
stop before i go off on another of my anti-crown-vic rants, though. ;)
bruin
response 23 of 46: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 23:43 UTC 1997

Re #22 What about the Mercury Grand Marquis?  I know that Yellow Cab has at
least two in its fleet (including Patrick Quinn's 1992 model, #66).
omni
response 24 of 46: Mark Unseen   Apr 7 05:27 UTC 1997

  I prefer the 1985 Chevrolet Impala/Caprice as the best taxi car built. The
new Caprices are too wide for my tastes. I cannot comment on the Crown Vics.
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