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aa8ij
AAPD war stories and speed traps Mark Unseen   Mar 29 08:04 UTC 1993

  
    I have been noticing that the AAPD is now resorting to "STEALTH"
tactics in thier pursuit of malcontents and others who offend them
by breaking the traffic laws. What I mean by the aforementioned
tactics is the new blue cars that seem to appear out of nowhere, usually
when you're *thinking* about doing something stupid.

   Also, I have noticed that there are some new speed traps that the
AAPusing..

 Like:
   Fuller Rd at the bridge-- Is there really a need for a 25 MPH zone
  bridge???
2200 Washtenaw. That *really* should be 40 in that stretch
    State between Stimson and Eisenhower...
       watch your speed between Gallup Silkworth and Howard Cooper.
       I have also seen them parked in Hidden Valley Apts.
 Pontiac and Kellogg... 
   There is also a *new* No Turn on Red at Swift and Broadway, and 
 usually there is a cop sitting in the crease between the power station
and the Argo Park entranc.

 use this item to post your war stories and post new speed traps
here... I really *Hate* being hunted and trapped like an animal.
,
43 responses total.
danr
response 1 of 43: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 13:02 UTC 1993

It's no surprise that cops are upping their efforts.  There was an
article in Wednesday's AA News about the city budget.  In the article,
our city manager noted that court revenues, including revenues from
speeding tickets, decreased by more than $600,000 last year despite
hiring six new traffic control officers.

IMHO, hiring more officers to raise revenues is mean-spirited and
dumb.  And since revenues are down, it appears that AA's motorists are
not as stupid as our city council and personnel.
gunge
response 2 of 43: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 19:07 UTC 1993

The State Police are lining up along the Michigan Ave entrance ramp to
eastbound I-94 just ahead of the bridge that they used to hide behind.
I've seen as many as four of them there at once!
aa8ij
response 3 of 43: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 21:49 UTC 1993

 Thanks for the warning, that particular stretch of 94 is bad for me. 
as the Aerostar loves to creep up to 65, and hang there especially sine
that part of 94 is downhill somewhat.

    It does seem silly that hiring 6 new officers would do more to decrease
revenue than raise it. Anyhow, maybe all of us AA drivers are getting 
hip to thier beat and not falling for the traps. I have noticed that
on Washtenaw, only a fraction of the drivers exceed the 35 mph edict
I would suspect that the rest are from out of town and are assuming that
there is mortolerance on a street like Washtenaw then there is on
one of thier streets (in thier hometown).

 I have also seen cops hang out at Keech and Stadium, Birk and Stadium,
Main and Stadium and Packard and Eastover.

 Packard between Stadium and Pine Valley ought to be a 35, or a 40
zone, well, maybe a 35. 30 is too low and I suspect that the cops are using
this as an excuse to snag drunks that have the misfortune of drinking
at Frasers.

  The other nite I picked a guy up from City Hall, going to Triangle
Towing. He said that he had been in Robby's and when he came out, they
busted him not more than 1/4 mile from when he got in the car. Now that
is insane to say the least, but at least it IS getting the drunks off
the streets.
mju
response 4 of 43: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 06:25 UTC 1993

I still think Huron Parkway should be 45 or 50.  Notice that HP is
a four-lane divided road for much of its length, but has the same
speed limit as Fuller between HP and Glacier -- a two-lane undivided
street!

There's something fundamentally wrong with the government when they
view enforcement of the laws as a potential profit center.  The
city council should be *happy* that revenues from traffic enforcement
are down; that theoretically means that fewer people are breaking
the law.

The area around the power station and Argo Park is bad; I found out
the hard way that the speed limit over that bridge is only 30 a couple
months ago.  30?  30?!?!
aa8ij
response 5 of 43: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 11:10 UTC 1993

 Indeed it is!!! How did you find out Marc??? I'll bet it was wrapped 
blue paint, and well hidden.
danr
response 6 of 43: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 12:20 UTC 1993

I wrote a letter to the AA News much along the lines of response #1.
Look for it in today's paper.
aa8ij
response 7 of 43: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 08:06 UTC 1993

 cut it out and save it for me, dan.
danr
response 8 of 43: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 12:12 UTC 1993

Didn't get into Tuesday's paper.  Maybe they were just teasing me.
ecl
response 9 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 04:25 UTC 1993

I wonder what the police and city Gov. would do, if just to spite
them everybody followed the traffic laws and they got NO money
from traffic ticket revenues.
I would love to see that happen.

mistik
response 10 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 04:35 UTC 1993

I am doing just that, but not for for spite reasons.

I don't like the points on my record.
aa8ij
response 11 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 07:49 UTC 1993

re 9... The police would then get tougher and sneakier than they already 
are.
trm
response 12 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 01:54 UTC 1993

The city council would create laws no one could obey to protect
city income.
ragnar
response 13 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 20:52 UTC 1993

Huron Parkway north of the river has always screamed for a 55mph posting.
It's a limited acess divided highyway with tons of run-off.  Not that the
40 it's burdened with now surprises me, AA has always had things notched
down 5-15 mph below comparable roads in more mobile towns.

HP south of the river is ok at 40, 45 is certainly reasonable.  I say that
given its current condition.  With its long overdue rebuilding and
possible improvements at Geddes and Huron River Drive, 50 will soon be
a below average speed.

The cops love the new condos on HP just north of Washtenaw.  Now they don't
have to get up on the grass to hide from people.

jeffk
response 14 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 23:54 UTC 1993

Sherriff's hang out at:

North side of Liberty between Zeeb and Wagner.

The Subaru dealer on Jackson Road (west of wagner, before Zeeb)

PB's is a coffee/donut stop (corner Zeeb and Jackson)

State Police:

I-94: East, in the median, as you turn rightish after US-12 goes to Willow
Run.  They also face for Westbound traffic as well.  They hide under the
Rosenville road overpass.  They can be found in the turnarounds between
Rosenville and Belleville Roads.  Watch the forest in the median that is
just east of Metro Airport and before Telegraph.  Watch the hilly median
just east of the Southfield Freeway exit until you hit Oakwood Blvd.  Watch
for Dearborn police around Michigan Ave (US-12).  Once you hit detroit,
don't worry...they don't pull anybody over...no room.

I-94 near Mt. Clemens: watch for State Police Camaros and Mustangs.

I-696 near Roseville... All branches love sitting under those curvy
bridges.  I-696 East, at I-275/I-96 interchange...as you enter 696 going
east, watch for police on the right shuoulder...you can't see them until
its too late.  Also watch for them on the entrance ramp from Grand River in
the same area.

I-75 South of Detroit: Watch the median on the left side at the Fort Street
entrance (it's a left-handed one).  Watch the bridges near S. Rockwood.

US-23: South of AA: Northbound: they like the rest area near Willow Road.

M-14: Both directions, just west of Barton, they like sitting in the median
just as the bridge ends on the west side of the river.  Also, just before
it merges into I-96, they like sitting under the I-275 overpass.

That's all of my tips!
kentn
response 15 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 00:10 UTC 1993

Just like in the old days of CB radios...wow
aa8ij
response 16 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 02:04 UTC 1993

  
 hey man, with all the driving that I do, and that most of us do, these
are very welcome hints indeed!!! the LAST thing that I need is a $65 or
larger ticket because of something stupid that I did. Mind you, I don't
speed and don't condone it, but this is out and out WAR!!!
shf
response 17 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 02:19 UTC 1993

RE 14: Wow! thanks:):) I-94 so far has not bothered me.  But Austin Rd once
        and M-52 once got cranky.  And everybody does 65, go figure.
mistik
response 18 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 02:31 UTC 1993

Would this be obstructing the justice?
ecl
response 19 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 06:44 UTC 1993

Who said anything about Justice, were talking about the law.

aa8ij
response 20 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 02:55 UTC 1993

 absolutly not. This is mere inforamtion that we are pooling together
and compiling, no harm there.
mistik
response 21 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 20:04 UTC 1993

And I was thinking you were disclosing information about how to break
the law but not get cought at the wrong places.
jeffk
response 22 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 15 14:16 UTC 1993

We're not, uh, tracking policeman, but rather, uh,....

FINDING OUT WHERE TO SEND THE DONUTS!

Got to keep the boys in blue happy, right?
mju
response 23 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 02:33 UTC 1993

On a somewhat related note, while driving from the west side of
Ann Arbor to the Denny's on Washtenaw at around 1:30AM two nights
ago, I saw *five* (count 'em, *five*) police cars.  Three of
them were following each other westbound on Washtenaw, just
east of Stadium.  Curiously enough, when I got to Denny's a few
minutes later, there was another police car still parked in the
lot, and the two cops inside finishing their coffee or whatever.
A good quarter to a third of the AAPD patrol cars must've been
at Denny's around then; I'm sure glad my house wasn't burglarized
that night...
aa8ij
response 24 of 43: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 22:30 UTC 1993

  I once bought 2 officers coffee and doughnuts at the Washtenaw Dairy.
TOTALLY freaked them out.
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