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ragnar
The WAX item. Mark Unseen   Oct 15 12:34 UTC 1991

     Manufacturers of every class, from two-bit weekend chemists to
established major corporations would like us to believe that *their*
product can protect a car's finish and give it a long lasting lustrous
shine.  What (if anything) do you put on your car, van, etc... and why?

23 responses total.
tcc
response 1 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 09:36 UTC 1991

Carnauba Wax.  Tons.
klaus
response 2 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 11:03 UTC 1991

I like to squirt a little non-detergent motor oil into the inside of the
doors, wheel well seams and trunk and hood seams.  Once the oil runs into 
the seams, it will displace any moisture that tries to collect there.  I
had my last car, an AMC, for 13 years.  It had no rust through except in
the front fender, which never saw any oil cause it was hard to get to. The
doors were like new.
Wax is important to keep the rust from going from the outside in, but not
many people do anything to keep it from going from the inside out.
ragnar
response 3 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 00:29 UTC 1991

I myself like to spray lithium grease all over the inside door jamb and
hinge areas, and use underbody coating on the sills.  The lithium I started
doing soon after I started the usual lubing the latches and hinges as is
commonly reccomended.  There's so much overspray anyway,it just takes a little
more to finish.
    As for the outer body, I *have* to keep my hood and roof waxed, because
the original finish has been wind broken.  I use an occasional coat of
basic Turtle Wax (not that I'm terribly brand loyal, but I haven't seen
any real reason to try others), and I use the wax from the self-serve spray
washes fairly frequently.  It takes some practice to get the spray stuff on
in a thick but decent looking coat, but it really does work and only
takes 2 or 3 minutes and one dollar to put on.
     What I'm really curious about here are all the wonder products, that
supposedly last for a full year,or even permanently, with one wipe on/ wipe
off application.  I read an article on some of these products ina car mag,
I'll try and look it up in my little archives.
zigzag
response 4 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 06:06 UTC 1991

Turtle wax, and the occasional total respraying of paint & finish...
klaus
response 5 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 10:11 UTC 1991

Rain Dance is also a good wax.
steve
response 6 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 01:42 UTC 1991

   When we got our Tercel in 1983, we got a protective coating on it,
called Poly Coat I believe.  That stuff was amazing.  There are still
places on the car even now that have the original shine.  I believe
that is one of the reasons it avoided rust for so long.  So while its
not a wax, it certianly seemed to do what waxes are supposed to do.
klaus
response 7 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 10:52 UTC 1991

These "last forever" coatings are fine, just remember that they are on
the surface of the paint.  Any abrasion or stone chip that removes a bit
of paint also take the last forever coating with it, exposing whatever is
underneath.  If you are going to depend on such magic, have it re-applied
every year or so.  (Is that your Terce with all the, uh, "holes" in it
Steve?  ;)
glenda
response 8 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 14:08 UTC 1991

Our Tercel really only has "hole" in the hatch.  The main body of the car
has very little rust.  Almost all of the Tercels of the early 80 vintage
that we have seen have rusted out hatches and little body rust.  Maybe
Toyota should investigate this, yes?
klaus
response 9 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 02:07 UTC 1991

Maybe they did investigate since you note that it only seems to be a 
problem with the early ones, or is it because the late ones are too
young?  I wish Ford would learn from their rusty tailgates.  They've
had problems in this area for decades!  
fes
response 10 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 1 20:23 UTC 1991

My truck cost me $300. What is wax?
steve
response 11 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 1 23:38 UTC 1991

   That which holds it together?
kentn
response 12 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 18:19 UTC 1991

  Wax?  That spray on, wipe off Minute Wax stuff works okay for my
$300 truck...about once every three years whether it needs it or not.
klaus
response 13 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 12:53 UTC 1991

You aught to sprinkle salt on your $300 truck.  It adds distinctive 
character.
kentn
response 14 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 16:05 UTC 1991

All I have to do is drive around Ann Arbor in the winter and I get
plenty of salt, thank you very much.  
bad
response 15 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 22:55 UTC 1991

Boy, you know, I hate the damn thing. Slow, clunky, doesn't make
sense...I just can't stand it.
Plus, there's always some nimrod on it...
I just hate it. Plain and simple.
I'm glad I never have to use it any more.
bad
response 16 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 22:56 UTC 1991

re #15 - Whoops - thought that said this was the VAX item :)
kentn
response 17 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 02:09 UTC 1991

...thought you were talking about your truck...
jeffk
response 18 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 18 01:26 UTC 1992

When I bought my Escort, it had Ford's ClearCoat paint on it.  I wash
the car every 3 or 4 months or so, and when I do, it comes out looking
like new...except for the stone chips up front from Detroit I-94 traffic.

I'm pretty skeptical that cars need any wax at all.  I've heard it said,
that if you have clear coat paint, you SHOULDN'T wax, because it scrapes
away a thin layer of the clear coat each time, eventually ruining the paint.

So far, this works.  I didn't get it undercoated and don't do shit to keep
it from rusting and the only rust I have is along the inside seam of my
hatch.  Water tends to collect there.

$0 spent on beauty aids for my car.  4 Wayne County winters, too.
ragnar
response 19 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 18 11:43 UTC 1992

What year is the car?  I've seen a lot of mid-eighties Escorts go
through the car wash and have the paint color come up into the
drying towels.  Red always seemed the worst color.
n8lic
response 20 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 18 18:26 UTC 1992

  Wax is benificial to your MPG as the finish sees a more aerodynamic 
surface. One of my first jobs was washing airplanes at City Airport 
after school. Never waxed one though...
  I used to apply wax to my car every week just after I got it out of
the wash.;-) with the muffler I added I must have got 3 extra miles
per gallon
jeffk
response 21 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 02:38 UTC 1992

re:#19:  My car is a 1988 and a half.  It was the first of the "bubble-butt"
Escorts.

re:#20:  Your milage increase came from the muffler.  Wax on surfaces is only
good for higher speeds, and my Escort does'nt verywell qualify as a high-speed
vehicle.  I want to say that it starts to make a difference (appretiable) above
100mph, but I can't be sure.  Mufflers, on the other hand, control backpressure
and the burning of your fuel, which has an immediate, direct impact on the
consumption rate (i.e. milage).
mistik
response 22 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 02:41 UTC 1992

and the tune-up condition.
jeffk
response 23 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 04:05 UTC 1992

Once a year for me.  Got 37 mpg, as of Sunday.
About 1/2 of that was with the a/c on.
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