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Another "100 Best" list Mark Unseen   Jul 30 01:07 UTC 1998

This list of the "100 greatest novels in English published in the
20th century" was drawn up by the editorial board of Modern Library.  

1. "Ulysses," James Joyce
2. "The Great Gatsby," F. Scott Fitzgerald
3. "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," James Joyce
4. "Lolita," Vladimir Nabokov
5. "Brave New World," Aldous Huxley
6. "The Sound and the Fury," William Faulkner
7. "Catch-22," Joseph Heller
8. "Darkness at Noon," Arthur Koestler
9. "Sons and Lovers," D. H. Lawrence
10. "The Grapes of Wrath," John Steinbeck
11. "Under the Volcano," Malcolm Lowry
12. "The Way of All Flesh," Samuel Butler
13. "1984," George Orwell
14. "I, Claudius," Robert Graves
15. "To the Lighthouse," Virginia Woolf
16. "An American Tragedy," Theodore Dreiser
17. "The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter," Carson McCullers
18. "Slaughterhouse Five," Kurt Vonnegut
19. "Invisible Man," Ralph Ellison
20. "Native Son," Richard Wright
21. "Henderson the Rain King," Saul Bellow
22. "Appointment in Samarra," John O' Hara
23. "U.S.A." (trilogy), John Dos Passos
24. "Winesburg, Ohio," Sherwood Anderson
25. "A Passage to India," E. M. Forster
26. "The Wings of the Dove," Henry James
27. "The Ambassadors," Henry James
28. "Tender Is the Night," F. Scott Fitzgerald
29. "The Studs Lonigan Trilogy," James T. Farrell
30. "The Good Soldier," Ford Madox Ford
31. "Animal Farm," George Orwell
32. "The Golden Bowl," Henry James
33. "Sister Carrie," Theodore Dreiser
34. "A Handful of Dust," Evelyn Waugh
35. "As I Lay Dying," William Faulkner
36. "All the King's Men," Robert Penn Warren
37. "The Bridge of San Luis Rey," Thornton Wilder
38. "Howards End," E. M. Forster
39. "Go Tell It on the Mountain," James Baldwin
40. "The Heart of the Matter," Graham Greene
41. "Lord of the Flies," William Golding
42. "Deliverance," James Dickey
43. "A Dance to the Music of Time" (series), Anthony Powell
44. "Point Counter Point," Aldous Huxley
45. "The Sun Also Rises," Ernest Hemingway
46. "The Secret Agent," Joseph Conrad
47. "Nostromo," Joseph Conrad
48. "The Rainbow," D. H. Lawrence
49. "Women in Love," D. H. Lawrence
50. "Tropic of Cancer," Henry Miller
51. "The Naked and the Dead," Norman Mailer
52. "Portnoy's Complaint," Philip Roth
53. "Pale Fire," Vladimir Nabokov
54. "Light in August," William Faulkner
55. "On the Road," Jack Kerouac
56. "The Maltese Falcon," Dashiell Hammett
57. "Parade's End," Ford Madox Ford
58. "The Age of Innocence," Edith Wharton
59. "Zuleika Dobson," Max Beerbohm
60. "The Moviegoer," Walker Percy
61. "Death Comes to the Archbishop," Willa Cather
62. "From Here to Eternity," James Jones
63. "The Wapshot Chronicles," John Cheever
64. "The Catcher in the Rye," J. D. Salinger
65. "A Clockwork Orange," Anthony Burgess
66. "Of Human Bondage," W. Somerset Maugham
67. "Heart of Darkness," Joseph Conrad
68. "Main Street," Sinclair Lewis
69. "The House of Mirth," Edith Wharton
70. "The Alexandria Quartet," Lawrence Durrell
71. "A High Wind in Jamaica," Richard Hughes
72. "A House for Ms. Biswas," V. S. Naipaul
73. "The Day of the Locust," Nathaniel West
74. "A Farewell to Arms," Ernest Hemingway
75. "Scoop," Evelyn Waugh
76. "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie," Muriel Spark
77. "Finnegans Wake," James Joyce
78. "Kim," Rudyard Kipling
79. "A Room With a View," E. M. Forster
80. "Brideshead Revisited," Evelyn Waugh
81. "The Adventures of Augie March," Saul Bellow
82. "Angle of Repose," Wallace Stegner
83. "A Bend in the River," V. S. Naipaul
84. "The Death of the Heart," Elizabeth Bowen
85. "Lord Jim," Joseph Conrad
86. "Ragtime," E. L. Doctorow
87. "The Old Wives' Tale," Arnold Bennett
88. "The Call of the Wild," Jack London
89. "Loving," Henry Green
90. "Midnight's Children," Salman Rushdie
91. "Tobacco Road," Erskine Caldwell
92. "Ironweed," William Kennedy
93. "The Magus," John Fowles
94. "Wide Sargasso Sea," Jean Rhys
95. "Under the Net," Iris Murdoch
96. "Sophie's Choice," William Styron
97. "The Sheltering Sky," Paul Bowles
98. "The Postman Always Rings Twice," James M. Cain
99. "The Ginger Man," J. P. Donleavy
100. "The Magnificent Ambersons," Booth Tarkington
23 responses total.
md
response 1 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 03:10 UTC 1998

Looks as if all the authors who can't yet be published by Modern
Library got left out.  No John Updike, no Joyce Carol Oates,
no Umberto Eco or John Irving or Anne Beatty or Mary McCarthy.
Some of them are a stretch, I think.  The Ginger Man?
omni
response 2 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 05:19 UTC 1998

  I certainly would've included Pat Conroy, Henry Fielding, Stephen King
among some others. 100 books from millions is just not enough. I would say
there are 1000 classic books that everyone should read, including the afore
mentioned 100 listed here.
mcnally
response 3 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 05:51 UTC 1998

  Having only read 4 of the titles above, I guess I can look forward to
  at least 96 more good reads..
remmers
response 4 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 15:54 UTC 1998

Re #2: Since this was a list of 20th century books, nothing by
Henry Fielding would have been eligible, since he was an 18th
century dude.

Read a newspaper column commenting on the Modern Library's list.
The author noted the bias towards authors published by the Modern
Library, and also used the list as a basis for comparing the 19th
and 20th centuries, concluding that the 19th century produced
a far richer collection of fiction.

I seem to have read 14 of the novels on the list. Not outstanding,
but probably better than average.
mary
response 5 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 21:00 UTC 1998

"To Kill a Mockingbird", Harper Lee, isn't listed.
The list is worthless.
davel
response 6 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 21:53 UTC 1998

I noted the absence of _The_Lord_of_the_Rings_, myself.  But it's not
worthless, Mary.  It's a very nice demonstration of what the editors of the
Modern Library think literature should be about.  It omits large areas.
(But _To_Kill_a_Mockingbird_ is indeed the *kind* of thing the Modern Library
people are generally looking for, in a way that TLOTR is not.  And I'm with
you in thinking it much more deserving than a whole bunch of what did make
the list.)
i
response 7 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 22:10 UTC 1998

Heh.  1984 is up at #13.  Coming out in the beginning of the Great Red
Scare Paranoia, it was a match made in marketing heaven.  But as a novel
to judge by literary standards, it should be somewhere down below #13,000.
Letterman's writers put together better lists than this.
mary
response 8 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 01:58 UTC 1998

Re: #6  Oh, Lordy.  I intended to put a ;-) after the worthless
response.  
keesan
response 9 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 05:21 UTC 1998

I think I read about 3 of those books, and none were half as good as To Kill
a Mockingbird.  No ;-) needed there.
md
response 10 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 12:24 UTC 1998

These are the only ones I've read:

1. "Ulysses," James Joyce
2. "The Great Gatsby," F. Scott Fitzgerald
3. "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," James Joyce
4. "Lolita," Vladimir Nabokov
5. "Brave New World," Aldous Huxley
8. "Darkness at Noon," Arthur Koestler
13. "1984," George Orwell
21. "Henderson the Rain King," Saul Bellow
23. "U.S.A." (trilogy), John Dos Passos
25. "A Passage to India," E. M. Forster
(the first 1/3 of) 29. "The Studs Lonigan Trilogy," James T. Farrell
30. "The Good Soldier," Ford Madox Ford
31. "Animal Farm," George Orwell
34. "A Handful of Dust," Evelyn Waugh
35. "As I Lay Dying," William Faulkner
41. "Lord of the Flies," William Golding
43. "A Dance to the Music of Time" (series), Anthony Powell (counts
    as 12 novels!)
44. "Point Counter Point," Aldous Huxley
47. "Nostromo," Joseph Conrad
52. "Portnoy's Complaint," Philip Roth
53. "Pale Fire," Vladimir Nabokov
54. "Light in August," William Faulkner
58. "The Age of Innocence," Edith Wharton
59. "Zuleika Dobson," Max Beerbohm
64. "The Catcher in the Rye," J. D. Salinger
65. "A Clockwork Orange," Anthony Burgess
73. "The Day of the Locust," Nathaniel West
(probably more than you've read of) 77. "Finnegans Wake," James Joyce
88. "The Call of the Wild," Jack London
99. "The Ginger Man," J. P. Donleavy
remmers
response 11 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 15:57 UTC 1998

Okay, Delizia is about twice as well read as I am. Here's the ones
I've read:

 3. "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," James Joyce
 4. "Lolita," Vladimir Nabokov
 5. "Brave New World," Aldous Huxley
 12. "The Way of All Flesh," Samuel Butler
 13. "1984," George Orwell
 17. "The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter," Carson McCullers
 18. "Slaughterhouse Five," Kurt Vonnegut
 22. "Appointment in Samarra," John O' Hara
 24. "Winesburg, Ohio," Sherwood Anderson
 28. "Tender Is the Night," F. Scott Fitzgerald
 30. "The Good Soldier," Ford Madox Ford
 41. "Lord of the Flies," William Golding
 45. "The Sun Also Rises," Ernest Hemingway
 64. "The Catcher in the Rye," J. D. Salinger
 68. "Main Street," Sinclair Lewis
 88. "The Call of the Wild," Jack London

(Brought to you by the miracle of cut & paste.)
atticus
response 12 of 23: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 18:53 UTC 1998

41. "Lord of the Flies," William Golding
56. "The Maltese Falcon," Dashiell Hammett
64. "The Catcher in the Rye," J. D. Salinger
98. "The Postman Always Rings Twice," James M. Cain

(Of the hard-boiled crime fiction school, Hammett and Cain are 
represented in the list; Raymond Chandler, who wrote better novels, is 
not.)
remmers
response 13 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 1 14:41 UTC 1998

(I noticed the absence of Chandler also, and agree that he should
have been represented. I'd have put "Farewell, My Lovely" on the
list, or "The Long Goodbye".)
davel
response 14 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 1 16:05 UTC 1998

 1. _Ulysses_, James Joyce
    (or a good stab at it, anyway - gave up maybe 1/3 through?)
 2. _The_Great_Gatsby_, F. Scott Fitzgerald
 3. _A_Portrait_of_the_Artist_as_a_Young_Man_, James Joyce
 5. _Brave_New_World_, Aldous Huxley
 6. _The_Sound_and_the_Fury_, William Faulkner
    (or at least much of it, and a lot of other Faulkner that didn't
    make this list - not sure whether I finished this one)
 7. _Catch-22_, Joseph Heller
10. _The_Grapes_of_Wrath_, John Steinbeck
13. _1984_, George Orwell
19. _Invisible_Man_, Ralph Ellison
23. _U.S.A._ (trilogy), John Dos Passos
26. _The_Wings_of_the_Dove_, Henry James
27. _The_Ambassadors_, Henry James
28. _Tender_Is_the_Night_, F. Scott Fitzgerald
29. _The_Studs_Lonigan_Trilogy_, James T. Farrell
31. _Animal_Farm_, George Orwell
33. _Sister_Carrie_, Theodore Dreiser
36. _All_the_King's_Men_, Robert Penn Warren
37. _The_Bridge_of_San_Luis_Rey_, Thornton Wilder
41. _Lord_of_the_Flies_, William Golding
45. _The_Sun_Also_Rises_, Ernest Hemingway
52. _Portnoy's_Complaint_, Philip Roth
64. _The_Catcher_in_the_Rye_, J. D. Salinger
78. _Kim_, Rudyard Kipling
orinoco
response 15 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 8 15:54 UTC 1998

I think I've read nine of these, some of them so long ago that I should
probably re-read them. 

I remember hearing somewhere recently (I don't remember where, though) that
this list was put together in a pretty sloppy way. Apparently, the people who
were surveyed were not told that they were helping make a "100 best novels"
list; they weren't told how many books to vote for, or to put them in order,
just to write down a list of books they'd liked. The person I heard this from
thought that this made the list less valid - I don't know if I agree, just
throwing this into the conversation.
omni
response 16 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 8 18:11 UTC 1998

  I've read about 15 of the books on the list, and have another 35 or so that
are on the list and hopefully I'll read them all before I die. But first, I
want to read some more of Conroy and Clancy.
sandeep
response 17 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 09:36 UTC 1998

Can someone tell me whether any of these books are available in electronic
form? I have already found Kim, Sons and lovers.
mcnally
response 18 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 08:32 UTC 1998

  Most of them are not yet old enough for the copyrights to have
  expired (if, in fact, they ever will..  Seems like every few years
  they keep extending the maximum life of copyrights.  I guess that
  intellectual property owners have a more powerful lobby on their
  side than the public domain does..)
remmers
response 19 of 23: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 13:18 UTC 1998

Indeed. Public interest be damned. Very sucky situation.
otaking
response 20 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 14:53 UTC 1999

Man, I've only read 5 of the books on this list. I should try some more of
these.
lilmo
response 21 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 22:33 UTC 1999

I'm with you:  five.  And that counts ones I can't quite remember, but don't
remember quitting early on.  :-)  I've started, but not finished, 2 or 3 more
of them.  davel and md have read more than I'd *heard of* before.

*sigh*  And I used to consider myself somewhat well-read!  I'm goint to have
to start working on this list.
davel
response 22 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 21:00 UTC 1999

Personally, I don't think this list is all that good of a target.  There's
lots of stuff I'd put on that they've ignored, and quite a bunch on this list
I'd say aren't worth much of anything.  Just my $.02, since my name was
mentioned ...
lilmo
response 23 of 23: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 02:15 UTC 1999

It's a decent place to start, tho', isn't it?  I'm sure they'd all go in the
top 200 or 500, if they got on ML's top 100.
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