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birddog
need help on BOOK, "the joy luck club" Mark Unseen   May 31 01:01 UTC 1996

Help! Ever read the book "The joy luck club?" I need Help on some of the
chapters!  HELP if you can
32 responses total.
meg
response 1 of 32: Mark Unseen   May 31 07:58 UTC 1996

What kind of help?
mvk
response 2 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 18:29 UTC 1996

quit
mooncat
response 3 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 21:18 UTC 1996

Someone have a book report due? <grin>
popcorn
response 4 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 04:02 UTC 1996

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n8rxs
response 5 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 19:41 UTC 1996

I read the book and thought it was great.  I also read The Kitchen Gods wife
because I liked TJLC so much.

I also know that Amy Tan sang in this rock band organized by Stephen King in
black fishnet stockings and black shorts and sounded really bad.  Read her 
books, don't hire her for your barmitzvah.

popcorn
response 6 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 19:56 UTC 1996

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beeswing
response 7 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 19:56 UTC 1996

Yeah.. I think Dave Barry was in int also... and yes they did suck. How King
could organize such a monstrosity is beyond me. They sucked BAD>
beeswing
response 8 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 19:56 UTC 1996

d'oh someone slipped in
omni
response 9 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 02:51 UTC 1996

 At least King doesn't write as bad as he plays the guitar. ;)
rcurl
response 10 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 04:04 UTC 1996

Would someone please give synopses of tjlc and tkg? 
tsty
response 11 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 07:14 UTC 1996

story of four Chinese mothers and their experiences raising children.
<that's a mighty short synopsis and inherently incomplete>
  
read the book, wanted to see the flick (haven't). it's an amazingly
subtle adn sensitive story. the flow risks putting the reader to sleep
but it's an excellent read nonetheless. i can recommend TJLC for more
than just PC 'sensitivity training.'
fitz
response 12 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 10:28 UTC 1996

Yes.  I would not say that the flow of the stories tended to put me to 
sleep, however, I do think that *The Joy Luck Club* exemplifies a 
stylistic notion that has already become prevelant in much of the 
recently published fiction that I have been reading.  More than just a 
few writers nowadays put forth novels that resemble a collection of short 
stories.  In *TJLC*, the stories connect with one another because the 
individual narrations must be separately told by the individuals at the 
gaming table.  As in life, the only common thread in the stories seems to 
be that each story reveals an ordeal for each narrator to overcome (not 
always with success).  The formal structure of the weekly maj jong game 
brings these very different stories into the same room.  The pretense for 
assembling these verydifferent  stories could have just as well have 
been  set at a bridge table, a bowling league game or the break room of a 
factory.

Ms. Tan writes exceedingly well.  I would like to point out the first 
story told by "The Chess Player" as  a concise, well-written short story 
initself, worthy of consideration along with the works of H. H. Munro.  
It is a jewel of literature, and that should be evident to all who take the 
time to read it--if nothing else in the book.  (Was it chapter 3?  I 
don't have a copy in front of me and I read it long ago.)


remmers
response 13 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 14:13 UTC 1996

(Response #12 sounds like excellent book report material... :)
davel
response 14 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 14:26 UTC 1996

Um, Rane or Jim, this one seems like a natural to link to books cf.
janc
response 15 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 15:02 UTC 1996

A collection of short stories tied together by a frame story is hardly a new
stylistic notion.  It's quite a bit older than the notion of the novel.
omni
response 16 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 18:49 UTC 1996

 maybe. ;)
remmers
response 17 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 21:14 UTC 1996

Re #15: "Arabian Nights" pops to mind.
rcurl
response 18 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 02:46 UTC 1996

I have linked spring agora 93 to books 51. 
fitz
response 19 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 14:05 UTC 1996

The Canterbury Tales, I suppose for the earliest.   I do, however, 
persist in the notion that my selections have  resulted in a number of 
novels that are structurally resemble short stories more than they 
resemble novels of Dickens or Austin.

Well,  it might just be the selection, but I'm not consciously looking 
for novels that are structured like *The Joy Luck Club*.

Getting back to the topic:  I also saw the movie and I thought that it 
did a slightly better job dramatizing the story of the woman who 
abandoned her child.  But read the book!  Tan is an excellent word-smith.

janc
response 20 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 17:01 UTC 1996

I agree that the form has enjoyed something of a revival.  John Barth has a
lot of fun in with it in several of his stories, including spiralling frame
tales.  I think Chaucer and the Arabian Nights are both 14th century.  Dunno
where the form originated.
ajax
response 21 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 19:07 UTC 1996

Would you count the Love Boat and Fantasy Island among this form of story?
janc
response 22 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 20:21 UTC 1996

Borderline.  There is a frame setting and a frame cast, but not much of a
frame story.
rcurl
response 23 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 21:15 UTC 1996

Sherlock Holmes.....
scott
response 24 of 32: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 21:44 UTC 1996

Homer?
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