response 67 of 119:

Feb 10 19:51 UTC 2006

 re #63:  
 Holy shit!  I can't believe that's meant seriously, even coming from bru.

 > so we invaded another country or two, kicked their asses into
 > submission, and turned them into democratic states so the people
 > could have a chance at a descent life.  Big deal.  Fact is, despite
 > you whineing, it seems to have worked.

 And what a roaring success it's been, what with the rose petals and
 the statue toppling and the joyous greeting of the liberators.
 What the hell war have *you* been watching, Bruce?

 You do, totally by accident, turn an apt phrase, when you write about
 giving the people of Iraq and Afghanistan a chance at "a descent life."
 Because that's what many of them will be getting -- a descent into
 even more nightmarish conditions than the awfulness they started with.

 > and [Carter] lost the election to Ronald Reagan.  A man who [Iran]
 > knew would not sit and play paddycake with them for 444 days,
 > and so they turned their hostages over to him immediately.

 Actually, it's precisely because of Reagan's willingness to placate
 Iran (by illegally selling them weapons!) that the hostages were
 released when they were.  You don't even remember Iran-Contra, do you?

 > Oh, and lest we forget, who was it that set the FBI to investigate
 > and wiretap and surrvaolance Mr. and Mrs. King?  Was it John F.
 > Kennedy and his brother Robert Kennedy and that hero of the great
 > society Lyndon Baines Johnson?  Yes.

 Got any evidence that those presidents ordered the wiretapping,
 as opposed to J. Edgar Hoover, who was (in those days) basically
 running the FBI however he saw fit?