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richard
response 66 of 176: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 01:07 UTC 2006

re #65 jep I'll give you that.

What I am is outspoken, and cyklone thinks that does "incredible harm 
to liberal ideas"  I believe strongly that the liberal cause has been 
beaten down into the ground by the right wing, who have simply been 
more outspoken than we have.  None of the ideas I talk about are 
anything but liberal orthodoxy and cyklone knows this.  Raising the 
minimum wage?  abortion rights?  protecting social security from 
privatization?

What is wrong with being outspoken, what is wrong with showing passion 
for the issues?  Cyklone if you don't like my approach fine, it takes 
all kinds to make the world.  But it just hasn't worked for the 
democratic party to be good little centerists who keep their mouths 
shut and make as little waves as possible.  When you don't speak up, 
you get crushed.  Speaking out is the american way, and it is 
something more people need to do.  I believe cyklone, who sits in 
judgement and seems more comfortable attacking the left for being too 
outspoken than attacking the right for anything, does more harm to the 
liberal cause than I do.  

I go out on the sidewalks and I pound the pavement for my candidates 
and my causes.  I was at a reception for a congressional candidate 
today.   He's not in my district, he's one district over, but I'm 
going to support him financially and otherwise, because he's outspoken 
and also believes the left has spent too many years muzzled by the 
center in the party.  Come back to me cyklone and tell me how I'm 
damaging the cause when you can say what and where you've done and 
what your ideas are.  Everyone knows mine.  What are yours?  
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