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aga
SURVEY! Mark Unseen   Oct 8 22:17 UTC 2003

Do you have cognitive guests, based on real people but built to suit, who
occasionally pop into your head, whereupon you begin intense mental discourse?
I do, and I know some other people who do, but I'm not sure it's universal.
35 responses total.
tod
response 1 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 22:33 UTC 2003

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scott
response 2 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 23:40 UTC 2003

They ridicule me endlessly, and when I can grab one I choke it death.
aga
response 3 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 00:00 UTC 2003

Nononon.  They're guests.  They're well-behaved.  You guys probably don't have
the cognitive power to have them.
jaklumen
response 4 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 01:05 UTC 2003

Oooh.  Condescending.  Do you expect this survey to continue with that 
attitude?
other
response 5 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 01:36 UTC 2003

I often debate with myself, but the reticent self who always says things 
like "it's probably not worth the bother" wins with distressing 
frequency.
dah
response 6 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 01:53 UTC 2003

Of all the people in this item, I'm probably the one with the most advanced
mind:  It holds debates between me and OTHER PEOPLE.
other
response 7 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:15 UTC 2003

That must be a definition of advanced with which I am not familiar.  If 
your mind is the example of the definition, then the word I would have 
used is "defective."
dah
response 8 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:19 UTC 2003

Why?
other
response 9 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:35 UTC 2003

Based solely on the ability (or lack thereof) you have thus far 
demonstrated on Grex to participate in discussions.
dah
response 10 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:43 UTC 2003

Is it really an inability?  I think it's mostly just an
idon'treallycaremuchility.  I, you know, am quite able to participate in
discussions, but really now why would I bother with serious such on Grex?
other
response 11 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:46 UTC 2003

Well, then.  That both alters the basis for my conclusion and 
significantly strengthens it.  After all, why would you bother to post 
all the drivel you do in the midst of other people's discussions if you 
have no interest in participating in the discussions UNLESS you had a 
defective mind?
dah
response 12 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:51 UTC 2003

Anyways, other, even if I had a defective mind, it hardly means all people
who have 'Tarpist style cognitive guests do.  You're off topic.
other
response 13 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 03:41 UTC 2003

Well.  If that ain't the putz calling the kettle a schmuck...
dah
response 14 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 04:49 UTC 2003

You're the one who thinks talking about something unrelated proves your point.
Stop filibustering.
krj
response 15 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 07:19 UTC 2003

Is this getting you any closer to getting laid, David?
tsty
response 16 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 07:30 UTC 2003

well, nok krj, it involves 'intense mental discourse' nto intercourse.....
jep
response 17 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 12:55 UTC 2003

I thought resp:6 was funny.

I do not entertain parties in my mind.  My feelings were hurt when I 
invited over some imaginary friends but they were too busy with 
implausible "other plans".
gull
response 18 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 13:58 UTC 2003

Re #15: I think he's hoping to seduce one of his cognitive guests.
scott
response 19 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 15:43 UTC 2003

Actually, I've got a different (but still interesting) way of thinking.  The
logical part of my brain tends to run things, and is right in front of
everything else.  However, it's not very good at figuring out emotional issues
and intuitive things.  Those parts of the brain tend to take much longer to
communicate with the outside world.  So whenever some tricky, non-obvious
problem comes up, the logical part has learned to put it aside (usually for
a day) to see what answers seep up from other parts of the brain.  It's
surprising what good answers I come up with, when I spend the time waiting
for them to arrive.
remmers
response 20 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 16:21 UTC 2003

Re #0: My thinking occasionally takes the form of imaginary conversations
with real people.  I'm not sure this is what you mean, though.  They don't
just "pop into my head" and start gabbing; I summon them.  I'm always
very conscious of the fact that I'm just thinking about them; there's
no illusion that these visitations have any autonomy of their own.

Is there any apparent physical dimension to your "guests"?  Can you visualize
them clearly?  Hear their voices as if they were real people in the same
room with you?

Re #19:  Oh yes, I became very much aware of background mental processing
when I was a student of mathematics.  Faced with a novel math problem that
that I was having a hard time solving, I'd put it aside for a while and
think about other things.  When I'd come back to it a few hours or a couple
of days later, the solution would often just jump out at me.
tod
response 21 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 16:23 UTC 2003

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rcurl
response 22 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 16:47 UTC 2003

Also Re #19: I experience the same phenomenon of unconcious mental
processing in a wide range of thought processes. It happens with difficult
mathematical problems, as remmers recounts, but also in much more common
things, like crossword puzzles or just remembering names. I will get stuck
on a crossword puzzle, but if I put it aside for a while, words just seems
to fall into place when I pick it up again. I am now applying this to
trying to remember the name of a store that I have been to but can't
recall. I can visualize the store but, in what is probably what is called
a "senior moment", I can't recall its name. I have the catalog in my
bookshelf, but am determined to recall the name and not look it up, so am
applying "unconcious mental processing". It's there somewhere.....

tod
response 23 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 16:59 UTC 2003

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happyboy
response 24 of 35: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 17:02 UTC 2003

i turn into a baloney sannidge.
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