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sj2
US support for dictators Mark Unseen   Nov 22 09:05 UTC 2003

See these two photographs.

http://www.thememoryhole.org/pol/rumsfeld-in-uzbekistan_files/51.jpg
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/handshake300.jpg

http://www.thememoryhole.org/pol/us-and-uz.htm

Independent human rights groups estimate that there are more than 600 
politically motivated arrests a year in Uzbekistan, and 6,500 
political prisoners, some tortured to death. According to a forensic 
report commissioned by the British embassy, in August two prisoners 
were even boiled to death. 

The US condemned this repression for many years. But since September 
11 rewrote America's strategic interests in central Asia, the 
government of President Islam Karimov has become Washington's new best 
friend in the region.
31 responses total.
pvn
response 1 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 11:25 UTC 2003

So?  This is a surprise to you.  Quite frankly the numbers you cite are
silly.  You gotta add a few zeros on the right before it really becomes
of interest otherwise you are not far from what probably goes on in your
hometown US although I will grant you the two 'boiling to death' as
other than the lack of AC that seems a little over the top for the US.  
Here is a clue "People have friends, nations have Interests".  It is
apparently a quote from a jewboy - seems I recall he had something to
do with the brits and their empire...
bru
response 2 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 16:52 UTC 2003

Saddam was our freind for a while.  But we finally got him.
rcurl
response 3 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 17:22 UTC 2003

We got him? Where is he?
bru
response 4 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 20:12 UTC 2003

well, we got his country.
happyboy
response 5 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 21:02 UTC 2003

really?  *we* got his country?
slynne
response 6 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 21:38 UTC 2003

YEah, *we* did. I think I ran into bru 3 times at the Bagdhad airport. 
jp2
response 7 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 21:44 UTC 2003

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happyboy
response 8 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 21:44 UTC 2003

was he *handcuffing* boys?
klg
response 9 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 02:06 UTC 2003

When was Mr. Saddam our "friend?"  Unfortunately, the U.S. State 
Department, seeking stability, pushes pragmatism over ethical 
judgements often makes it appear that way (viz., Sec. Colin Powell's 
insistance that our government continue - against all rational hope - to 
seek the approval of the Disunited Nations prior to the invasion of 
Iraq).  This is a key reason why the U.S. is so slow to act against 
tyrants, such as Saddam.
scott
response 10 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 05:14 UTC 2003

Ah, so in that photo where Rummy is shaking hands with Saddam, he's secretly
gritting his teeth while wishing the United Nations were in there doing
something?
sj2
response 11 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 06:02 UTC 2003

I am not suggesting a theory here. Just do your own fact-digging. As 
pvn suggests, its might mostly be *larger* national interests (a bit 
contorted though).
klg
response 12 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 17:26 UTC 2003

(ah.  So Mr. scott believes that Israel and the PA are friends because 
of a photo showing Prime Minister Sharon and Chairman Arafat shaking 
hands?  This is thought-povoking.)
sj2
response 13 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 05:20 UTC 2003

The photographs are only symbolic. Read the article. But I guess you 
won't do that because that would be uncomfortable. Is it?
willcome
response 14 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 06:36 UTC 2003

a CALL CENTER support staffer who is a qualified engineer is under-
employed
sj2
response 15 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 08:15 UTC 2003

Yes, very good willcome. :P
albaugh
response 16 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 16:19 UTC 2003

sj2, what is your point, that the US is an evil imperialist empire, meddling
in your corner of the world?  Look in the mirror:  India has plenty of its
own problems to deal with.  Trot out some of those, why don't you?
willcome
response 17 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 19:12 UTC 2003

whore.
rcurl
response 18 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 21:29 UTC 2003

Jerk.
happyboy
response 19 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 02:22 UTC 2003

safe sex.
ankh
response 20 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 06:24 UTC 2003

re #16: getting touchy, albaugh? 

happyboy
response 21 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 06:42 UTC 2003

re16: "india has many problems, etc" yeah, and many of them
caused by having been colonized by europeans for so long.
sj2
response 22 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 15:17 UTC 2003

"sj2, what is your point, that the US is an evil imperialist 
empire ...."

You assumed that, I didn't say that. US has a lots of things that I 
appreciate but its foreign policy is not one of them.
happyboy
response 23 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 16:49 UTC 2003

do you appreciate BAYWATCH?
tod
response 24 of 31: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 17:00 UTC 2003

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