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slynne
Borders - Strike One! Mark Unseen   Nov 9 19:42 UTC 2003

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Some of you may have noticed that the employees at the Downtown Borders 
store (Store #1) have gone on strike. I have been thinking about this 
quite a bit since I am employed by this company and because the field 
of labor relations holds a lot of interest for me. 

I totally support these workers right to unionize and I believe 
strongly that having unions CAN make labor relations better for both 
labor and management. I am very interested in seeing if this strike 
helps them at all. 

I am not sure that all of their demands are very realistic, especially 
their demands of higher wages and better benefits. Retail is a very 
highly competitive business with pretty low profit margins. If this 
union were to win on the higher wages portion of the contract, it is 
possible that Borders might not find that store profitable enough to 
keep it open. This is especially true since other booksellers in the 
area with non-union workers would be hiring at the market wage which 
very well might give them a competitive advantage. 

On the other hand, it is possible that if Borders employees were to win 
higher wages and better benefits, it could end up being good for that 
particular store. I mean, if Borders were paying better than other 
retail outlets in the area, they could attract better employees. They 
certainly would retain employees longer which is something that can be 
a real benefit to a place like Borders. It is possible that the higher 
wages could lead ultimately to better service which might work in a 
place like Ann Arbor. I hear people complaining about how much they 
miss the good service of the old non-corporate Borders. 

Borders as a large firm has some pretty good reasons not to want the 
employees to win. They have been sending email and issuing statements 
to all of us non-union employees that say that the reason wages and 
benefits are not being negotiated is that they dont think it would be 
fair to pay the employees of one store better than the employees of 
another store. (Never mind that they pay based on *local* labor markets 
so they already pay the staff at some stores more than they pay the 
staff at other stores). The thing is...if the Borders employees at the 
Ann Arbor store win on the point of wages and/or benefits, it will give 
a powerful incentive for the employees at other stores. 
21 responses total.
md
response 1 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 21:33 UTC 2003

The employees are on strike and you still go to work every day?

SCAB!
slynne
response 2 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 21:45 UTC 2003

Hey man. I support them but I dont support them *that* much. ;) How 
would I be able to afford my double espresso mocha lattes if I didnt go 
to work? Seriously though, my financial situation is such that I have 
to continue to work. 

The most I am willing to do is to not cross their picket line downtown. 
I have not volunteered to work at that store for that reason. I will 
admit though that if I was told to cross the picket line and work 
there, I probably would because I cant really afford not to have an 
income right now. 
tod
response 3 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 18:36 UTC 2003

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slynne
response 4 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 21:23 UTC 2003

I know. Collective bargaining can actually *help* management if they 
know what they are doing. 
tod
response 5 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 22:34 UTC 2003

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gull
response 6 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 02:54 UTC 2003

I have to admit my first reaction is, 'Damn, now where am I going to get my
parking validated when I go downtown?' ;>  I wouldn't cross a picket line
just to get a half hour of free parking, though, at any rate.
tsty
response 7 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 10:15 UTC 2003

borders fired tpryan for 'someting' that they refused to 'reveal' and
such nazism (reinforced by this strike, btw) prohibits me from contributing
*any* of my dollars to bordrs' coffers - ever again.
 
  
happyboy
response 8 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 17:07 UTC 2003



        *cuddle puddles*



tod
response 9 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 21:51 UTC 2003

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aaron
response 10 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 01:53 UTC 2003

Hey - md - if you read, you'll see that Lynne was describing a strike by
Borders employees. She's a Waldenbooks employee. So lay off scab girl,
already. Scab girl doesn't need it.

I really liked the "old" Borders - the one that existed in Ann Arbor in the
pre-K-Mart days, when you could find amazingly obscure books on the shelves,
and could probably find an employee who had read most of them.... Part of
the reason that the current set of employees makes less is that they are
employed as "warm bodies" and the books are a commodity to be moved in large
quantities. Quite a shift in corporate culture....
remmers
response 11 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 13:12 UTC 2003

Doesn't Borders own Waldenbooks?

Anyhow, stalwart union types tend to think that crossing any picket
line is wrong.

I miss the "old" Borders as well.  Ten years ago, the head guy in
the computer books department at the downtown Ann Arbor store was
also a computer science student at EMU.  Now, there's someone with
a real committment to understanding what he sells.
tod
response 12 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 18:02 UTC 2003

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slynne
response 13 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 23:26 UTC 2003

I doubt that the labor practices of the old pre-corporate Borders have 
anything to do with the current union or strike. 
tod
response 14 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 23:45 UTC 2003

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tsty
response 15 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 08:19 UTC 2003

re #13 .. you are correct .. and that is the problem!
  
 unionism is teh manifest indictment of management failure.
tsty
response 16 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 06:13 UTC 2003

of course, thsoe with tiwt flitters ... never get smart.
russ
response 17 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 01:53 UTC 2003

People with twit filters don't have to get smart
because it is a fait accompli.
slynne
response 18 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 20:04 UTC 2003

TS. Why are you talking about twit filters? That doesnt have anything 
to do with a strike at Borders. 
tsty
response 19 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 09:34 UTC 2003

(sorry, slynne .. it was  russbait <g>)
  
and now back to the credits of bor=ycaotting borders.
willcome
response 20 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 27 09:35 UTC 2003

whore-gait.
dcat
response 21 of 21: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 02:22 UTC 2003

re resp:11 --- yes, Borders does own Waldenbooks.
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