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twenex
The MSN UK Pornography Item. Mark Unseen   Sep 24 15:34 UTC 2003

The Microsoft Network UK has now closed all its chatrooms, to avoid child
pornography and meetings with paedophiles, etc.

Sensible Precaution or mad, Fascist nanny-State censorship?
26 responses total.
twenex
response 1 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 15:53 UTC 2003

Lito news stories on the above can be found at the following URLs:

(The above line should say "Links to". lag.)

http://media.guardian.co.uk/newmedia/story/0,7496,1048627,00.html - The
Guardian, left-wing UK newspaper.

http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/news/story.jsp?story=446426 - The
Independent, centrist UK newspaper.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3133192.stm - The BBC. You don't know
who the BBC is? ;-P

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-828868,00.html - The Times (of
London) - right-wing.

PS. For the uniniated, leftwing=Democrats=Labour,
rightwing=Republicans=Tories/Conservatives, centrist=LibDems (no major US
equivalent).

PPS. I tried to find some American links to this story. I couldn't find any.
flem
response 2 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 17:30 UTC 2003

I believe slashdot has a story on this. 
twenex
response 3 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 17:43 UTC 2003

Thanks for that: The link to the Slashdot story itself is:
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/09/24/062218.shtml?tid=109&tid=126&tid=187&t
id=
95.
twenex
response 4 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 17:44 UTC 2003

Corrigendum: It's not just MSN UK; according to Slashdot, MSN is shutting down
*all* its unmonitored chatrooms worldwide.
anderyn
response 5 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 18:33 UTC 2003

That's what I heard on the radio this am too. 
dah
response 6 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 19:31 UTC 2003

No, it's not shutting down the ones you pay for, but I still don't understand
what the big deal is.  What's the big deal.
krokus
response 7 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 21:15 UTC 2003

What are they defining as a monitored chat room?  This really is
stupid, especially since there are plenty of other places to chat.
flem
response 8 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 21:16 UTC 2003

Not much of a big deal.  Microsoft is doing its embrace and extend thing
again, in the instant messenger market, again.  Probably won't work.  
butiki
response 9 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 06:55 UTC 2003

if i remember right (from watching some news items about it), Microsoft wants
to somehow control its liability on the issue. I.e., they keep the paid areas
open, so if someone tries to pull a pedo stunt they have the authority to get
that user's name, etc. in other words, they want to remove the pedophiles'
anonymity. however, i think that even if they shut out peodphiles from their
service in this manner, the pedophiles will still have other avenues.
twenex
response 10 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 11:14 UTC 2003

Indeed, and the spin I got on it from the MSN UK repon BBC News yesterday
morning was that they just did it to protect children, totally altruistic.
Forgive me if I don't buy that line, considering who it's coming from.
scott
response 11 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 12:30 UTC 2003

The view over on The Register is that it's part of a plan to seize control
of instant messaging and such.
sj2
response 12 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 12:34 UTC 2003

I don't think this has anything to do with their concern for children. 
The reason has to be commercial. Either they wanted to close them 
because they weren't making money on them or something similar.

Just think if google shut down google groups??? *Shudder*!!

happyboy
response 13 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 19:15 UTC 2003

oh god!  what would we all do then?!


GO FOR A BRISK WALK?
asddsa
response 14 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 19:47 UTC 2003

SMACK YOURSELF 
happyboy
response 15 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 20:32 UTC 2003

DOES BEATING OFF COUNT?
asddsa
response 16 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 20:41 UTC 2003

BEATING OFF CUNT
vipla
response 17 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 23:24 UTC 2003

Helo!Do you now how do I changes web pages?
dah
response 18 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 26 00:50 UTC 2003

Beat off, cunt.
gull
response 19 of 26: Mark Unseen   Sep 26 02:39 UTC 2003

I think they did it for monetary reasons.  MSN is a money-losing 
enterprise for Microsoft, and it hasn't succeeded in its original goal 
of killing AOL.  I can't see how this will really protect children -- 
there's no shortage of chatrooms other places, and most of them are less 
well monitored than MSN's.
slash
response 20 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 6 02:02 UTC 2003

Everyone has to remeber that Microsoft is a control freak company
all they want to do is create a large monopoly, and dominate the computer
industry.  They feel that they need to force people to pay, just so they can
talk to other people.  What they don't realize, is that as long as people are
meeting people online, there are gonna be scary Pedophiles.  And why do people
Care about the MSN network, I mean, we should jsut skip it all together and
go back to using the grex "party". :-P nobody is using it anymore!!!
mdw
response 21 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 6 05:21 UTC 2003

Microsoft has lawyers.  What a surprise.  I don't think this means
anything past that.
reggae
response 22 of 26: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 22:25 UTC 2003

What the hell is this account do?
naftee
response 23 of 26: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 01:22 UTC 2003

It JIVES
willcome
response 24 of 26: Mark Unseen   Nov 27 07:28 UTC 2003

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