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willcome
Should cross be on staff? Mark Unseen   Nov 3 21:12 UTC 2003

Here're some exerts of cross (aka tenser) in M-Net party:

  "tenser:   I'm not worried about getting things working.
  tenser:   What I *am* worried about is getting the rest of grex's 
staff convinced to do it a different way."

Note how he'd rather play politics than actually get things working.

  "tenser:   It's a big issue; Marcus carries a lot of weight with 
staff.
  tenser:   Marcus likes to do things his way.
  tenser:   However, Marcus has been MIA for a long while now, which 
is why there's an opportunity to replace things
  tenser:   That's why I see now as a real opportunity. ...[He] 
carries too much weight with staff."

I don't see why he should be on staff, if he's plotting to replace one 
of Grex's greatest active staff members.

  "tenser:   We don't *need* guidance, we need persuation."

He's yet again bringing un-Grex-like attitudes to, of all places, Grex.

  "<tenser:tenser wishes Mermaid would disappear so he could talk to 
jp2 in peace.>"

I'll admit this is only tangentially related to his duties as staff, 
but note how rude he is to a gentlelady who did nothing disruptive.  
Also note how jp2's again involved in some form or another of 
scandalry.

  "tenser:   The technical issues are non-issues; I know how to do it 
right
  tenser:   The big issue, though, is convincing everyone else to do 
it right."

Does that sound like something a team-player would say?

  "tenser:   I'm not convinced that's the way to go, but I do know 
grex as it currently stands is a real mess."

Do you REALLY think that about YOUR community?  I think the only mess 
here is that tenser was ever allowed to become part of staff.
42 responses total.
willcome
response 1 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 21:17 UTC 2003

Sorry for the bad formatting, folks!
rcurl
response 2 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 21:50 UTC 2003

I see nothing wrong with tenser's comments. Every organization needs some
abrasion. He is still just one vote among many, and may indeed get people
to think about things rather than just go along with the founders or the
"team-players" (if everyone is a "team-player" it is not likely that new
*original* ideas will arise, since they almost always arise in
contention).

krj
response 3 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 22:00 UTC 2003

I hear a giant whining sound coming from the Great Frozen North.
willcome
response 4 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 22:07 UTC 2003

Maybe you didn't notice how he's PLOTTING behind YOUR back, rcurl, and how
he was rude to mermaid.
mynxcat
response 5 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 23:03 UTC 2003

We have nothing to go by with your statement that mermaid was not being a
pest. And that statement was not rude, it was a wish. Like , I wish polytarp
would act his age. Not rude at all.

I don't see any conspiracy. If there was, I know Dan is smart enough to cover
his tracks, rather than talk about it openly on mnet
willcome
response 6 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 23:13 UTC 2003

Smart people don't do bad things, mynxcat, and anyone can verify that mermaid
wasn't doing anything bad just by looking at the logs.
cross
response 7 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 01:32 UTC 2003

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russ
response 8 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 01:54 UTC 2003

forget
goose
response 9 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 02:26 UTC 2003

cross should be elected king
willcome
response 10 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 02:58 UTC 2003

I'm sad to see cross can't take this important item seriously.
other
response 11 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 03:48 UTC 2003

The funniest part about #7 is the image of someone trying to swing a 
fire axe in the Pumpkin.  
willcome
response 12 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 04:23 UTC 2003

And even that's not funny.
jaklumen
response 13 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 05:31 UTC 2003

Oh, I dunno.  Having been there (at the Pumpkin), I'm trying to 
imagine it.
pvn
response 14 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 06:02 UTC 2003

"Age and cunning overcomes youth and talent"

I don't think marcus has anything to worry about as he also has talent
as well.
cross
response 15 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 06:19 UTC 2003

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gull
response 16 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 14:53 UTC 2003

It's funnier if you imagine it with the Ominous Music and the Serious
Announcer Guy from political campaign ads.
cross
response 17 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 22:51 UTC 2003

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jp2
response 18 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 00:17 UTC 2003

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other
response 19 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 04:54 UTC 2003

You're conspiring to conspire!
cross
response 20 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 17:57 UTC 2003

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twenex
response 21 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 09:48 UTC 2003

Cross was elected to be an admin, not be a team-player.

He was also elected according to procedure. If you want him out, use
procedure, not potentially libellous gossip.

When was hte last time a sycophant impproved the lot of his
constituents?
naftee
response 22 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 01:16 UTC 2003

Uhm, yesterday?
jaklumen
response 23 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 02:22 UTC 2003

Sorry, I'm with twenex on this one.  Boo-hoo.
mynxcat
response 24 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 19:17 UTC 2003

I didn't know there was an "election" to get cross on staff. Was it a 
staff election.
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