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bru
Mary, Jesus, and Leanardo! Mark Unseen   Nov 3 13:06 UTC 2003

So apparently they are going to look into teh relationship be tween Mary
Magdelene and Jesus on a tv special looking into the DaVinci Code on ABC
tonight.

Speculation is that Davinci was a member of a secret society of the church
that kept certain information secret, including the possibility that they had
children and the location of the holy grail.

Also mentioned is that scene outside the tomb where the risen jesus tells Mary
"do not touch me", which correctly translated says "do not cling to me"
suggsting a more intimate relationship.

What do you think?
51 responses total.
edina
response 1 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 14:58 UTC 2003

I think that it's pretty odd to think that a 30-year old man did not have a
wife/companion and kids.
aruba
response 2 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 15:03 UTC 2003

Hey now, some of us just haven't gotten around to it yet. :)
edina
response 3 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 15:10 UTC 2003

I should clarify -  back in that time.  
anderyn
response 4 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 15:22 UTC 2003

According to the new testament by Biff, Christ's childhood best friend, also
known as "Lamb", Jesus was too busy rocketing around learning cool things in
the rest of the mysterious East to have a wife/children. (It's a hysterically
funny book, and oddly enough not exactly counter to the Biblical accounts.)
remmers
response 5 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 16:33 UTC 2003

For the authoratative word on the Magdalene Cult, everybody should play
the computer game "Gabriel Knight 3: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the
Damned."  In addition to the question of whether Jesus and Mary Magdalene
had kids, vampires get into the act.  As an added bonus you get Tim Curry
as the voice of Gabriel Knight.
tod
response 6 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 16:58 UTC 2003

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rcurl
response 7 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 20:30 UTC 2003

I think it is all just legend and invented mythology. There is no
historical evidence that Jesus even existed and also none that any of the
things attributed to Jesus happened (although I grant that *something*
happened back then that started all the legends). 

edina
response 8 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 20:43 UTC 2003

How nice of you to "grant" that.
slogsdon
response 9 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 20:45 UTC 2003

The DaVinci code theories are steeped in Gnosticism. I discount everything
about them.

edina
response 10 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 20:55 UTC 2003

It was a fun read, though.
rcurl
response 11 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 20:55 UTC 2003

Re #8: I say I grant that something happened because when I don't people
say, "well, *something* must have happened", which is correct, so I
grant it in advance so no one will start that argument (but it never fails
that someone does anyway). 

However, what is your basis for your sarcasm, edina? You don't know any more
than I do about it. 
flem
response 12 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 22:33 UTC 2003

Frankly, I thought "The DaVinci Code" was terrible.  One of the worst
books I've read in years.  Awful dialogue, completely stupid plot,
piss-poor historical research.  If you're looking for something in that
genre written by someone who has a clue what they are talking about and
can actually write, check out Umberto Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum".  
aruba
response 13 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 22:47 UTC 2003

Yeah, I enjoyed the book, but he's not a great writer.  THe other book he
wrote with the same character has an almost identical plot.
tod
response 14 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 22:58 UTC 2003

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bru
response 15 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 23:25 UTC 2003

Heck, they even found his brothers remains.  (No, I am not kidding.)
tod
response 16 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 23:56 UTC 2003

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md
response 17 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 00:33 UTC 2003

No, Howard was the lawyer.  The guy they dug up was Arnold.  He was a 
plumber -- bad career choice back in those days.  
tod
response 18 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 01:07 UTC 2003

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jmsaul
response 19 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 01:54 UTC 2003

Re #15:  Some real question about that, though.
md
response 20 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 02:02 UTC 2003

"Arnold, ah PLUMMAH??  What are you, meshuggah?  Plumbing won't even be 
invented for another fifteen hundred yearsenen!  Such a putz I 
married!!"
bru
response 21 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 04:31 UTC 2003

Hey! what can I tell you.  Mary Magdalene was Jesus wife, his brothers
tombstone was found, Did any of the apostles exist or are thay all figments
of someones imagination as well?  And what about rome?  They have a lot of
history about rome, most of it about emperors, but you will find they have
some information on very minor figures as well.

The bible does not stand alone as it did in the 17th century when everybody
believed the world was created in 4004 B.C.  Time ha smoved on and we now know
much more about history, from many sources.
rcurl
response 22 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 07:50 UTC 2003

None of those you name above have any verified historical existence.
Biblical scholars agree that most of the specifics of the bible are
legendary stories without historical evidence. Places can be identified
and some major characters. But what do you expect? History was mostly
oral, and we know how stories evolve as time goes on, and nothing was
written down until fifty years after the purported events. By that time
it had become embelished to suit contemporary purposes. 

There is a lot of recorded history about the Roman empire - contemporary
histories were written, statues were carved, edicts were engraved, mosaics
were constructed. But things were different out in the boondocks, where
literacy was rare. 
bru
response 23 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 13:05 UTC 2003

any roman edicts issued against the Christians?  any leaders named?  Pontius
Pilot didn't exist?
jp2
response 24 of 51: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 13:28 UTC 2003

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