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davroz
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Parking Rates 60 Cents/Hour Now.
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Mar 22 08:50 UTC 1995 |
So there I was, enjoying my usual rant about how unfair Ann Arbor parking
policy was when, speak of the devil, I hear on the news that Ingrid Sheldon
our beloved Mayor, has just OK'ed another ten cent per hour hike in metered
parking rates, in her words, "To fund the increasing costs of maintaining
downtown street-level parking at a time when demand for such parking is high."
Funny, but was I the only person who didn't hear about the city council's vote
on this? Did they go out of their way to publicize this "debate"? Here's a
list of my personal grievances. See if you can add any.
--The degree of over-charging for parking in any urban area directly impacts
the desirability to shop/work/park in such areas. Simply put, if you want
to kill your downtown businesses, keep jacking up the rates.
--Though attended parking structures may be slightly safer, at least one
restaurant owner I've spoken to says the increased length of metered hours
at a nearby structure has cut into their evening business. Many structures
and attended lots downtown now charge as late as 10, 11 or even midnight.
--The so-called "grace period" of one hour post-ticketing ($3.00 if paid
within one hour) is a joke. Getting downtown, finding spaces near the city
hall (metered, of course, except for a few in front of the building) during
hours when the cashier is there or the drive-up window is open can be an
experience that may make the extra two dollars seem worthwhile. Question:
If you get ticketed at a quarter to six, how are you supposed to pay within
on hour when all the cashiers have gone home? Alright, so there's a
validation clock in the front lobby, what if you don't have three dollars
cash to stick in the envelope?
--A guy in Chicago just came up with the most brilliant device: a meter with a
sensor which can tell when it's space is no longer occupied so that it can
immediately erase any residual time. No more free minutes at the last guyys
expense, lot's of extra dough for the city. We know that can't be long in
coming to our always well-maintained parking system. Tell me, if they can
come up with pleasers like this, why did I just lose 25 cents Canadian in
our oh-so-modern meters? Heck, I can't count the number of U.S. coins that
failed to buy me more than a wrist fracture from the beating I gave the meter
when the time didn't register. How about a meter which dispenses the differe
difference to the parker when he leaves his space? How about a meter-card
like the library copiers--stick it in, meter's on, put it in again when you
leave and it debits your card or your city parking account just like your
water bill. Forget to punch in or out and the nice meter maid can ticket you.
Simple enough? We're looking for a few good geniuses...
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davroz
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response 1 of 145:
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Mar 22 08:55 UTC 1995 |
Friggin' 'puter ate my last line.
...debits your card or your city parking account, just like your gas or
watter bill. If you fail to punch in or out, the nice meter maid can ticket
you.
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kami
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response 2 of 145:
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Mar 24 21:05 UTC 1995 |
gee Davroz, I like the card idea. It makes sense. They'll never go for it.
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brenner
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response 3 of 145:
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Mar 29 08:18 UTC 1995 |
(This topic now linked to the accordion conference i the interest
of cross-continent relations. Feel free to
link one of ours!)
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vsclyne
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response 4 of 145:
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Mar 29 14:04 UTC 1995 |
Ah Brenner, that explains it. I was having that "we're not in
Kansas anymore" feeling. But what do accordions and parking
meters have in common. Marcus, where are you? We need your
wisdom to sort this one out.
(Wondering how the picodad became such an expert on accordions.)
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brenner
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response 5 of 145:
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Mar 29 14:15 UTC 1995 |
All of us, musicians, tourists, writers and theives, we must all
pay the piper.
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juls
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response 6 of 145:
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Mar 29 16:48 UTC 1995 |
Excuse me, but accordion players are only allowed in the Altar Guild
Auxiliary of Musicians. They may turn pages during recitals, they may
empty French horns during intermissions, they may look for oboe reeds
in the marshes. That's it.
No pretensions to full membership, please; it could get ugly.
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vsclyne
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response 7 of 145:
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Mar 29 18:51 UTC 1995 |
Got that right!
And I forgot about emptying french horns.
God, am I glad I play the piano.
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srw
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response 8 of 145:
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Mar 29 21:07 UTC 1995 |
So... In the interest of cross continent relations...
What do you California folks pay to park on the street?
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juls
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response 9 of 145:
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Mar 30 00:21 UTC 1995 |
In Santa Cruz, it's 25 cents a quarter hour in the choicest tourist locales.
And a breath-taking $26 ticket for going over the limit.
But then, we had a devastating earthquake in '89 and have been in a
depression ever since.
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brenner
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response 10 of 145:
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Mar 30 00:55 UTC 1995 |
My office here in pasadena: $10.00 max (3 hours=$10.00)
Down in front of Starbucks in Old Town 25 cents for 15 minutes. Meter.
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mdw
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response 11 of 145:
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Mar 30 02:37 UTC 1995 |
One of the nice things about Ann Arbor is it's *Small*, and *Walkable*.
That means, for instance, that I can park, for free, on the streets very
near work (at most 2 blocks away), and I can then walk to virtually any
location downtown with only modest effort. Some of the best resturants
in Ann Arbor are located on main street; only 5 minutes on foot. The
state street shopping district and environs (including Border's main
store), is only 15 minutes away. The south U shopping district is only
20 minutes away, and that's clear on the other side of downtown. So, by
& large, it's perfectly feasible to beat the a^2 parking system, *AND*
stay healthy!
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brenner
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response 12 of 145:
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Mar 30 05:59 UTC 1995 |
You have starbucks?
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brenner
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response 13 of 145:
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Mar 30 05:59 UTC 1995 |
Sushi?
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srw
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response 14 of 145:
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Mar 30 06:39 UTC 1995 |
No Starbucks. We do have two Sushi places (Fuji and Miki).
I'm glad you linked this. People will stop complaining about
another 10 cents an hour on the meters.
Oh, I should also mention rodents. We have a great supply of them here
in the woods. (I saw you mention an interest earlier.)
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humdog
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Mar 30 10:43 UTC 1995 |
the city of santa cruz once had the nerve to ticket my
silver porsche because i was talking to kryan and sdober and juls
for more than three hours.
we were annoyed.
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brenner
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response 16 of 145:
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Mar 30 13:30 UTC 1995 |
(The silver porsche figures prominently in the
Story of the Abduction of the Roden, but those
days are long gone. Gone, but not forgotten!)
IF I live in a place where I could see the Tragically Hip
in a live performance, I'd never complain about parking meters.
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juls
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response 17 of 145:
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Mar 30 16:47 UTC 1995 |
Indeed. And hummers, I don't think I told you, but I got a ticket that
day, too. It was shortly thereafter that the decision was made to blow this
taco stand.
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humdog
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response 18 of 145:
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Mar 30 16:53 UTC 1995 |
the silver porsche is lovely and nearly collectable,
AND it is not here with me in colorado, simply
because colorado Is Not Worthy.
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raven
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response 19 of 145:
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Mar 30 20:49 UTC 1995 |
No Starbuks here in A2 but enough another other cafes and variuos
coffee
shops to leave you sick and reeling with cafiene poisoning
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brenner
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response 20 of 145:
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Mar 30 20:52 UTC 1995 |
If, perchance, one of us stopped by A2, what sorts of
things would we see and do?
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mdw
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response 21 of 145:
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Mar 31 05:38 UTC 1995 |
The ark.
more book stores per capita than anywhere else.
Grex walks.
the Chenille sisters.
A large variety of community activites listed in the Observer.
(Samples: "Group Improvisation: Improvisatinal Theater as a Model for
Teamwork" "ArtT"alks: U-M Museum of Art." "Caves to Cathedrals:
ArtVentures Studio" "Jugglers of Ann Arbor" "The Foundation of All
Perfection:Jewel Heart Buddhist Center", "Richard Cambrindge: Ann Arbor
Poetry Slam" "Ann Arbor Singles Ballroom Dancers" "(film) Fellini
Satyricon"
Assorted talks & seminars at the University.
a wide variety of restaurants, some of them quite good. Includes
chinese, indian, japanese, ethiopian, middle-east, greek, german, and
other offerings.
Zingermans deli.
Various more ordinary coffee places. ERC & sweet waters seem to be the
best.
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raven
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response 22 of 145:
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Mar 31 06:19 UTC 1995 |
You forgot Thai food, and walk in the arb (more scenic than Golden
Gate park, we have a river).
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mdw
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response 23 of 145:
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Mar 31 07:32 UTC 1995 |
Did not! (Where do *you* take your grex walks?)
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brenner
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response 24 of 145:
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Mar 31 08:06 UTC 1995 |
Used book stores too?
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