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morgana
angels and insects and whatever Mark Unseen   Jul 26 21:30 UTC 1998

I wanna talk about angels?

hey, where did she come from?

that's irrellevant!   I'll start:

"when I was younger...I danced with angels, their wild wings in fourth
position"
-Jane Yolen

"angel of snow's breath and the insomnia of cats, angel of snapshots fading
to infinity, don't drop me - shoeless, wingless. Defender of burrows, carry
me - carry me in your pocket of light."
-Nancy Willard

"every visible thing in the world is put under the charge of an angel"
-St. Augustine
16 responses total.
cloud
response 1 of 16: Mark Unseen   Jul 28 00:17 UTC 1998

Neato.  What gives?
remmers
response 2 of 16: Mark Unseen   Jul 28 12:47 UTC 1998

Notable films about angels:

        "Stairway to Heaven"
        "It's a Wonderful Life"
        "Wings of Desire"

cloud
response 3 of 16: Mark Unseen   Jul 28 16:06 UTC 1998

And not to be forgotton,
        "Ernest Goes to Heaven"
gothgal
response 4 of 16: Mark Unseen   Jul 29 21:31 UTC 1998

I dunno Josh, just wanted to talk about angels...who knows, I'm a fruitloop
cloud
response 5 of 16: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 03:11 UTC 1998

OK, that's fine.  I really didn't mean to offend you (which I feel like I
did).  
I guess I have very little to say about angels, despite having been raised
to be a"good" little Christian boy.  I've never had any experience with them,
although I'm not prepaired to rule out their existance or influence.  I still
beleive in a God which is active to this day (call me old fasioned), so what
right have I to rule out angels, UFOs, ghosts, or any other supernatural
thing? Still, while I don't actively disbelieve in thm, my knee jerk reaction
is sceptism of people who claim to have had a close encounter with the weird
kind(s).  <Shrug>  Anyhoo, that's about what I think of angels, or possible
lack thereof.  
        Cheerio!

snowth
response 6 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 2 01:09 UTC 1998

Re:4
   Yes, but you're a _cute_ fruitloop, dear!


(Although I haven't seen you in *months*, goodness knows what you've done to
your hair Now! <gin>)
gothgal
response 7 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 2 17:44 UTC 1998

my hair remains the same since mid-june-ish and I've been trying to get ahold
of you, but I think you love Ring more than me <pout>...I don't mean it,
really, but I'd love to see you when you're free.
And now, Josh, you didn't offend me in the least. Besides it takes more than
that to offend l'il 'ol me. In any case, I was raised Jwish and really hadn't
given the matter much thought, but recently I've been experiencing not so much
a spiritual awakening as an adoption of symbols. My brain has been sifting
through a lot of religious crap recently and some of it is just more
interesting than others. You have to admit that angels as a pure conceptual,
even barring their existance are pretty neat.
void
response 8 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 08:41 UTC 1998

   not to mention that someone in the middle ages actually came up with
a specific number of angels who can dance on the head of a pin.  it's
900-some, if i remember rightly.
cloud
response 9 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 18:47 UTC 1998

Wow, they really got things done in the middle ages.
void
response 10 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 5 04:03 UTC 1998

   at the moment, i can't remember where i read that.  when i do, i'll
post it.
orinoco
response 11 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 8 16:10 UTC 1998

"For the Cherub Cat is a term in the Angel Tiger"

Cricket, do you remember where I got that one? I _think_ it's Christopher
Smart, but i may be wrong.


I approve of angels, but the current 'cute fuzzy angels' trend bugs me even
more than the 'cute fuzzy Jesus' thing did. I mean, we're talking divine
minions here, not walking security blankets. But maybe that's just me.
cloud
response 12 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 11 03:34 UTC 1998

It might be Christopher smart.  It sounds like him, but the version I learned
was somewhat condenced
orinoco
response 13 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 11 18:02 UTC 1998

Yeah, Christopher Smart, from Jubilate Agno:

"For he is of the tribe of Tiger.
For the Cherub Cat is a term of the Angel Tiger.
For he has the subtlety of hissing of a serpent, which in goodness he
suppresses"

(He's talking about his cat Jeoffry, BTW. He wrote this while he was confined
for insanity. Crazy stuff, this)
cloud
response 14 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 12 18:23 UTC 1998

What I really loved was what he said about mice:

        "For the mouse is a creature of great personal valor,
For this is the True case:
        Cat takes female mouse,
Male mouse will not depart,
        But stand threatning, and daring:
        'If you will let her go,
I will engage you, 
        as prodigious a creature as you are.'"

I'm sure that the line breaks are all messed up, but that's pretty much what
the man said.
orinoco
response 15 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 13 02:47 UTC 1998

Hmm...that wasn't in my abridged version, so I guess we're even.
I wonder where you could find the whole thing in one Fell Swoop?
cloud
response 16 of 16: Mark Unseen   Aug 14 00:25 UTC 1998

God knows.  When they found the poem, it was all out of order, and there is
more than one school of thought on how it should be put together.
Try the A2 main library, 'though.
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